BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[M_Animefan]

Uryu killed Renji?

Basically put a whole in him, much worse than ichigo.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Nah honestly CYFOW was written before the anime, so a lot of things have changed. Currently, CYFOW Zaraki doesn’t even come close to Renji or Byakuya, and Senjumaru is on another level entirely. Oetsu took out the Schutzstaffel, while Zaraki gets crushed by Pernida. But CYFOW might no longer be canon, so we need to stop all this hype over Zaraki.
Ukitake with mimihagi > yama > Kyoraku or Toshiro > Byakuya > Mayuri > Zaraki

So close to thinking this is a Raven alt

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

bub really said "Mayuri > Zaraki"

 

[Hellscream]

Nah honestly CYFOW was written before the anime, so a lot of things have changed. Currently, CYFOW Zaraki doesn’t even come close to Renji or Byakuya, and Senjumaru is on another level entirely. Oetsu took out the Schutzstaffel, while Zaraki gets crushed by Pernida. But CYFOW might no longer be canon, so we need to stop all this hype over Zaraki.
Ukitake with mimihagi > yama > Kyoraku or Toshiro > Byakuya > Mayuri > Zaraki

Bro read going to the beach

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Getsuga Jujisho overpowering Uryu's strongest attack is pretty indicative that it Ichigo was indeed horrendously holding back against Uryu. Furthermore, Ichigo's power is directly tied to his mentality. Just look at his fight against Gin. FKT Ichigo was at the cusp of being transcendent, yet was struggling with Gin due to not having his head in the game. This is the same situation here. Ichigo is shaken up by Uryu's betrayal and is not at his best.

Not to mention he also intentionally aimed Getsuga Juujishou to miss Uryu. Uryu admitted Ichigo could've killed him base to base.

I still find it weird that Renji of all people godstomps Yamamoto technically by these feats. Until we get some kinda retcon on his power, that man is on fraud watch.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Nah honestly CYFOW was written before the anime, so a lot of things have changed. Currently, CYFOW Zaraki doesn’t even come close to Renji or Byakuya, and Senjumaru is on another level entirely. Oetsu took out the Schutzstaffel, while Zaraki gets crushed by Pernida. But CYFOW might no longer be canon, so we need to stop all this hype over Zaraki.
Ukitake with mimihagi > yama > Kyoraku or Toshiro > Byakuya > Mayuri > Zaraki

Kenpachi by CFYOW feats still stomps all of them at once. Let's be honest here. The anime doesn't change Kenpachi's position in terms of power in the verse, the novel still makes it very clear that the barrier between Squad 0 and Kenpachi is still immensely high.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

I still find it weird that Renji of all people godstomps Yamamoto technically by these feats. Until we get some kinda retcon on his power, that man is on fraud watch.

Power of the sick ass intro, which maybe should have gave this away huh

 

[Saibotsan]

Not to mention he also intentionally aimed Getsuga Juujishou to miss Uryu. Uryu admitted Ichigo could've killed him base to base.

I still find it weird that Renji of all people godstomps Yamamoto technically by these feats. Until we get some kinda retcon on his power, that man is on fraud watch.

Let me man be, he deserves a "W"

Uryu on the other hand having one of the longest W streak in the series

 

[Aernasilver]

Yama wankers in shambles.

Renji haters in shambles.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

I can't wait to bring up in a debate that Yama can't beat Kenpachi because he's a Renji victim

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Aight let’s not do any preemptive coping before the episode proper drops

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Aight let’s not do any preemptive coping before the episode proper drops

renji slams

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Aight let’s not do any preemptive coping before the episode proper drops

No. Renji >>>>>>Gotei 13

Cry about it

 

[GinDan]

bub really said "Mayuri > Zaraki"

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

These goons can’t read when did I say Renji can’t be that strong?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Honestly, if legit, this does give a lot of credence to what the anime implied during Unohana's death speech what with showing Renji and Byakuya among the likes of Ichigo and Yhwach

Though that's kinda crazy indeed

 

[Tyri456]

Yama wankers in shambles.

Renji haters in shambles.

Using novel Yama would get up scaled massively to whatever Renji and Byakuya are, CFYOW put Shikai Yama massively above Byakuya who’s above Renji, let alone bankai Yama.

Unless we just discard those and say Kubo is taking his own path, they are kinda old

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Using novel Yama would get up scaled massively to whatever Renji and Byakuya are, CFYOW put Shikai Yama massively above Byakuya who’s above Renji, let alone bankai Yama.

Unless we just discard those and say Kubo is taking his own path, they are kinda old

Is Byakuya ever stated to be above Post RG Bankai Renji? And also depending on which version of Byakuya scales, it wouldn’t necessarily upscale Yama. Since it’s base Yoruichi ~ base Byakuya ~ base Tokinada. So again I say, don’t preemptively cope

 

[Tyri456]

Is Byakuya ever stated to be above Post RG Bankai Renji? And also depending on which version of Byakuya scales, it wouldn’t necessarily upscale Yama. Since its base Yoruichi ~ base Byakuya ~ base Tokinada. So again I say, don’t preemptively cope

I’m chill until the ep come out, but Renji is gonna fight base Gerard too in his next fight, I just think this situation need to be think deeply.

 

[Tyri456]

Back stab in bleach are super effective, tell mayuri to fight zaraki face to face, he ain’t gonna scratch him unless some prep time thing.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

I just hope the episode gives us a righteous justification to this gap.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Apparently there’s a flashback to Renji training so maybe

 

[Aernasilver]

I mean we already know what Renji went through for his power up which is RG training and getting his True Name.

If you don’t like that justification, I don’t think there’ll be anything else.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

renji getting what he deserves

 

[Myxenete]

All this and Renji is still gonna get smoked by Gerard's breath later, I hate it here

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Apparently there’s a flashback to Renji training so maybe

He'd have to be doing that certified Garp training Bleach edition

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Honestly, if legit, this does give a lot of credence to what the anime implied during Unohana's death speech what with showing Renji and Byakuya among the likes of Ichigo and Yhwach

Though that's kinda crazy indeed

No! Raven can't be vindicated!!!!

 

[Ped2018]

Y'all just mad because Renji is not gonna have to ask his big Bro Ichigo to save his girl anymore

 

[T2KBaka]

I'm waiting for Chad to get an anime buff, unless those statues get one too

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

I want Aizen's chair to get a buff. I want it to start fighting Yhwach. That'd be crazy

 

[AppleLord]

Unohana told Kenpachi Renji was on his level.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Kenpachi buff????

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Depending on things, and I'm not going to say with any certainty, but maybe cosmic Gremmy and Yama isn't crazy at all.

 

[BoastJr]

I am a Messenger and I was asked to say and I quote

"Raven said she told y'all so. Cfyow was never canon. I wasn't so crazy huh?"

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Literally no one said CFYOW isn't canon. And yes she's still crazy.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

I am a Messenger and I was asked to say and I quote

"Raven said she told y'all so. Cfyow was never canon. I wasn't so crazy huh?"

Tell Raven to shut it and that CFYOW is still canon

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Depending on things, and I'm not going to say with any certainty, but maybe cosmic Gremmy and Yama isn't crazy at all.

 

[T2KBaka]

When Chad fully develops his Fullbring against those statues.

 

[Blallooo]

Scaling aside it's cool that we get to see more of Renji/Uryu dynamic, they were a nice duo against Szayelaporro

 

[M_Animefan]

for anyone interested, a bleach fan is adapting the CFYOW novel into a webtoon. its pretty decent so please check it out!
https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/bleach-cant-fear-your-own-world-/list?title_no=868649