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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

I don't hate any characters, but one of the I don't like is definitely Yamamoto. Himself is probably the biggest loser in the series, no one other character has failed so much in proportion to the power he has.
Bro was literally the Gojo of Bleach, no one wanted smoke from him so they needed to counter him and outright not fight him.
 
Luffy deserves to be in the big three because he’s funny, he’s the goat, and because he’s



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The big three exist because each series were topping sales charts around the same time. That's that. You can't throw in any series before or after it, because they exist so far apart, relatively speaking.
 
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Calling him a loser when his opponents had to resort to tricks to even beat him.
Yamamoto was so strong that it took tricks to defeat him, do you think that's really impressive? He underestimated Aizen, he didn't listen to Mayuri's warnings, he wasn't cautious with Yhwach...
 
he didn't listen to Mayuri's warnings
Wasn't Mayuri's 'warnings' just him saying "You failed to kill Yhwach 1000 years ago and so we are in this situation."?
he wasn't cautious with Yhwach
How was he supposed to be more cautious? Royd Lloyd perfectly copied Yhwach's memories so that there would be nothing to give away that he was the fake Yhwach.
He underestimated Aizen
How was Yama supposed to know Wonderwiess exists?
 
Wasn't Mayuri's 'warnings' just him saying "You failed to kill Yhwach 1000 years ago and so we are in this situation."
That and the fact Yhwach was the only one who could steal his bankai
How was he supposed to be more cautious? Royd Lloyd perfectly copied Yhwach's memories so that there would be nothing to give away that he was the fake Yhwach.
Be more smarter
How was Yama supposed to know Wonderwiess exists?
Ngl why yall complain abt yama and wonderwiess fight,he litteraly showed in that fight why you need to get rid of yama powers,and he still beat that kid up.
Kinda blaming plot here,i wanted yhwach to kill yama when he got almighty or in some epic 1v1 fight since bleach is mostly about that
 
Wasn't Mayuri's 'warnings' just him saying "You failed to kill Yhwach 1000 years ago and so we are in this situation."?
The situation here is that Yamamoto couldn't kill Yhwach 1000 years ago, but now he thinks he can do it by attacking Yhwach directly.
How was he supposed to be more cautious? Royd Lloyd perfectly copied Yhwach's memories so that there would be nothing to give away that he was the fake Yhwach.
Even though he knew Quincys could steal Bankai, he foolishly believed that his Bankai could not be stolen, even by Yhwach. He doesn't acted cautiously and attacked Yhwach directly, without waiting to figure out how the theft of the Bankai took place.
How was Yama supposed to know Wonderwiess exists?
Yamamoto had seen a lot of what Aizen could do, but even after all that, he still told Aizen "don't think of yourself as anything" and didn't even believe that Aizen could cut him. Even when Aizen cut him, he didn't think anything was wrong.

Yes, he couldn't know Wonderwiess exist. But he already had been underestimating Aizen from the very beginning.
 
The situation here is that Yamamoto couldn't kill Yhwach 1000 years ago, but now he thinks he can do it by attacking Yhwach directly.

Even though he knew Quincys could steal Bankai, he foolishly believed that his Bankai could not be stolen, even by Yhwach. He doesn't acted cautiously and attacked Yhwach directly, without waiting to figure out how the theft of the Bankai took place.

Yamamoto had seen a lot of what Aizen could do, but even after all that, he still told Aizen "don't think of yourself as anything" and didn't even believe that Aizen could cut him. Even when Aizen cut him, he didn't think anything was wrong.

Yes, he couldn't know Wonderwiess exist. But he already had been underestimating Aizen from the very beginning.
Yama couldn't kill Yhwach 1k years ago WHEN not even using half of his bankai abilities on top of refining them over 1k years. This time he use everything.

Yeah sure , let the quincies destroy the entire seireitei while doing jack shit until we had a solution to the bankai stealing , great plan . And no, he can't fight him in shikai , even a weaker clone was easily matching him without blut and he already know that Yhwach can survive a full on direct blow from East. What is shikai gonna do ?

Yama's plan was the get stabbed by aizen so he could bypass KS. Without that, there is nearly nothing he could do. Yama was goading Aizen.
 
Yama couldn't kill Yhwach 1k years ago WHEN not even using half of his bankai abilities. This time he use everything.
If Yamamoto had the power to kill Yhwach 1000 years ago, why didn't he use all of his Bankai to do it? This is a road that leads to the same place at both ends.
Yeah sure , let the quincies destroy the entire seireitei while doing jack shit until we had a solution to the bankai stealing , great plan.
Same Yamamoto does not hesitate to burn many captains, many people and a city to ashes to kill Aizen... Also Mayuri already knew that they could not win without using their Bankai and there would be destruction.
Yama's plan was the get stabbed by aizen so he could bypass KS. Without that, there is nearly nothing he could do. Yama was goading Aizen.
No, Yamamoto realized that he was not under the influence of Kyoka Suigetsu through reiatsu. With Kyoka Suigetsu, Aizen could make Yamamoto feel like he was already injured.
 
If Yamamoto had the power to kill Yhwach 1000 years ago, why didn't he use all of his Bankai to do it? This is a road that leads to the same place at both ends.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Yama believe that he killed Yhwach 1000 years ago? And technically he was right. The Kaiser Gaseng mentioned that it would take 900 years for Yhwach to regain his pulse. Being without a pulse means that your dead.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Yama believe that he killed Yhwach 100 years ago? And technically he was right. The Kaiser Gaseng mentioned that it would take 900 years for Yhwach to regain his pulse. Being without a pulse means that your dead.
As I remember, we didn't see the end of the battle between Yhwach and Yamamoto. He may not have seen the need to completely reduce Yhwach to ashes and left him as a corpse. You are right.
 
Are there any resistances missing from their profiles? Cause neither of them have soul manip and paralysis inducement resistances listed which makes it a stomp
Overlord is missing Soul Corruption resistances and LDB has sum thought based mind hax combo I thought would counter Soul Crush
 
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The overlord in his spirit form ( i assume those haxs carry over in his golden form) have some pretty nice non existence(spiritual, mental and conceptual). Not sure if anything in the bleach duo arsenal can deal with that with what is accepted on the profiles.
 
Yhwach trending on Twitter today because of Boruto's New Chapter Leaks: 💀😭🔥🔥🔥

    • Koji gained the "Almighty" a Jutsu able to give him the ability to see every possible future in the multiverse.
    • Koji saw all of Boruto's training and Jutsu from Sasuke and thought Boruto.
    • Boruto and Sarada are dead in a parallel universe.
    • Code destroyed the planet.
    • The new bad guy turned himself into a tree.
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