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it's worth saying that almost anything of "holy" nature in Bleach has been uh,very much either "light is not good" or just like kinda horrific tho
Just my own 2 cents on that.
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Just my own 2 cents on that.
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Couldn’t they have included that in the manga or anime. Like a throw away line or something?
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oh yeah, that has been the case. And Kazui was sending souls to hell, right?
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Also why are some of the vizords even working under the soul society anymore? I thought they straight up didn’t *** with them sense they tried to dispose of them as hollows.
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Aizen was the cause
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True but they made it pretty clear that they didn’t like the soul reapers regardless
Excellence616
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Can Bleach characters interact with Concept and Info type 2 Souls?
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the souls themselves are their bodies, souls and minds/memories
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You wait until Deceived and I revise Bleach souls
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Soul Society is kinda ******, but they really like Yamamoto.
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seeing hitusguya come back as a zombie was genuinely surprising. I thought homie was just knocked out
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only time he has managed to put his opponents down.
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so aizen solos
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Finished season 2 of tybw, might have to read the manga if season 3 doesn’t come fast enough
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I probably will tbh
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real
Excellence616
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Is Roka replicating ability perfect that she cam copy Mugetsu and Hōgyoku? Because I have seen argument of-wiki that Roka can shot Aizen like Ichigo with Mugetsu
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Should the Physiology profile have pictures?
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It can only copy weaker version of mugetsu and am pretty sure she can’t copy the hogyoku unless am mistaken
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She stated that she can't copy the Hogyoku. After re-reading SAFWY, I'm quite against the idea that everything she copies is weaker. Since when she copies something and it's weaker, on top of it being explicitly stated, it's implied to not be due to a power difference; instead, it's a skill difference. Mugetsu, although it can be argued to be weaker, should not be anything less than 5-C, and that's a bit of downplay. I think it should be 4-A.
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Excellence616
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Because one thing I have discovered is copying an ability doesn't necessary make the copied ability equal to the original unless stated otherwise.
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Yeah, but I don't think her Mugetsu is 4-A because it's a Mugetsu. I believe it's 4-A due to how they compare her Reiatsu when she was absorbing Reishi from all over Hueco Mundo to use Mugetsu, to another character.
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Okay, she didn't do it via raw power, she has to absorb energy to do The Mugetsu?
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Yeah, if I were to tier it like a profile, it would be |Whatever normal tier she gets, 4-A with Mugetsu and Absorption|.
"She laid out her threads all over Hueco Mundo to absorb enough spiritual-matter for this attack."
Just her hax makes her one of the most dangerous Bleach characters cross verse.
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It all make sense now. I was planning on reading SAFWY but I only have the summarized translation.
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If there are no problems, I will publish SAFWY revisions, just need to create a sandbox for Kuruyashiki
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No problem at all. Publish it anytime
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You mean, the summary or BBS...
None of ya'll have read SAFWY in actuality.
Where are these headcanon tiers coming from? She can't even use use Cero Doble properly on Cien's Triple Gran Rey Cero, which is explicitly weaker than the top 3 espada abilities. This makes absolutely 0 sense. The 4-A scaling also makes no sense, because there is no reason to downscale the copied mugetsu to Ichigo's actual one.
Please, not yet. At least not for a year or two, since I'm working on an actual translation for SAFWY. A sandbox is already being made by Arcker.
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Ok I guess, believe what you want
You mean, the summary or BBS...
None of ya'll have read SAFWY in actuality.
What? Can you send me the part where it's explicitly stated to be weaker than the top 3 Espada abilities? Cien is stronger than the Espada.
I'm not downscaling it from anything. The tiering comes from Cien comparing her amount of spiritual energy to that of Post-Hōgyoku Aizen. That's why I said 5-C to 4-A.
"Her spiritual pressure rises. Szayelaporro is afraid. Did she copy one of AIZEN’s attacks? How did she get data on that!? He didn’t fuse with the hôgyoku until after he left Hueco Mundo. Did she connect with the Muken!? Roca shakes her head, 'Do you know how many months I wandered through Karakura Town?' No way... Cien quickly tries to break her neck, but he’s too late. — 'What I downloaded... is... the power that stopped AIZEN -sama."
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Me and Arcker are already working on the sandbox just be patient
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Me and Arcker are already working on the sandbox just be patient
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Reading some of the manga now and I gotta say, the anime seemed to do squad zero way more justice then the manga
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That is how it's suppose to be
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Spiritual energy doesn't exist, there is only spiritual power and spiritual pressure.
He is literally just spitballing strong things he knows about. He can't sense Soul King level Aizen...
Cien regained his ultimate form he had as a 0 espada, and that is weaker than base Aizen. Second fusion Aizen alone is so weak, two base Aizen tier people (Kisuke and Isshin) can't even sense his power. How would Cien possibly sense a real Mugetsu's spiritual power? Also there's the fact that he survives it...
No one has a full translation of SAFWY, and you haven't read the full actual novel. The reddit dropbox version everyone has is a summary translation
If you think Cien is stronger than the espada because of a moment when his spiritual pressure swelled up for a bit, then you're mistaken. Read the scans in the actual profiles:
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They really brought back niel, grimmjowl and some of the fullbringers. But no yammy or halibel
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Grimmjow never died, Yammy was already dead, Harribel never died, and Nelliel is pretty explicitly alive since the start of the TYBW.
I will say, they don't do shit tho
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