Twisted_Little_Raven
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You think he does?
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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why do you think he doesn't?
Excellence616
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Aizen created a plan for Yamamoto
Shikai Yamamoto> Shinigami Aizen
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Because shinigami Aizen was scarred of yama shikai, thats why he created Wonderweiss.
Aizen can't handle the old man's Bankai, bro is not Him like that.
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What is Byakuya doing there?
Also Gerard currently is only above sealed Senju with non giant Vollständig + blut
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I hate questions like this. Instead of going “why doesn’t this thing scale here”, how about you actually explain why it’d scale there in the first place?
Arcker123
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Shinigami Aizen > Striped Mask Getsuga > Itto Kaso (Yamamoto's strongest power) > Bankai Yamamoto > Shikai Yamamoto >~ Shinigami Aizen
Excellence616
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And KS doesn't amp Aizen's stats in any way
All his raw power is already accessible in his base state
All his raw power is already accessible in his base state
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That byakuya glaze is crazy. After cour 3 drops all elites are around full power senjumaru or greater. Oestu blitzed the ss while jugram and uryu god mid diffed by tenjiro and Senjumaru. Later the SS use holy form and now their relative to sealed S0. The reason i say their relative is because they won with hax but they where at least able to keep up this time.
Senjumaru later folds all of them and uryu is the only one who escaped someone how. He seems to be on the same level as Senjumaru and probably the one that kills. Tho tbh I see jurgam killing her since uryu is low key a good guy. Uryu later loses to jugram. So if uryu loses to jugram that means jugram is on senjumaru's level and the other elites aswell since they also got the same asuwheln amp as jugram.
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We should tar and feather Reio and throw him down a cliff like Joshua Graham.
Guacamolefletcher
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Nah
Shikai Yama ~ Royd < Base Zaraki post-training
Shikai Yama ~ Royd ~ 75% Yhwach < 100% Yhwach ~ Fullbring Bankai Ichigo ~ Base Zaraki Post-Training < Shikai Zaraki (~8x)
Bankai Yamamoto ~ Yhwach's blut (at least 5x) > 100% Yhwach < Shikai Zaraki, there's no basis for comparison there
Guacamolefletcher
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Yes, Byakuya doesn't scale to any of the characters in my scaling chain.
Arcker123
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That means Gerard is over base Yhwach which makes no sense
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Keep in mind that's cour 1 Yhwach who hasn't regained his full base power.
Arcker123
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But that's the same Yhwach whose > all sternritter
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Eva's mistakes with his thread is causing Arc to cry inside.
Guacamolefletcher
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What anti feats does evolved Gerard have?
Arcker123
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Yhwach thinks he's the only one who can contain Yama's bankai. Which pretty solidly puts him above Gerard
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That statement is contextualized to the Sternritter who he sent out in the first invasion, as that was an order he gave to the Sternritter during the first invasion. That doesn't really limit Giant/Vollstandig Gerard
Twisted_Little_Raven
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Didn't Gerard say that was the first time he's ever been that gigantic
Guacamolefletcher
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This would add to it, if anything
Twisted_Little_Raven
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I know
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Dude you had your chance to escape and you willingly came back here?
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Reio casually throwing a at least 100x multiplier for no reason at all is a classic.
Guacamolefletcher
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Casual Reio headcanon
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"One of the Quincy king Yhwach’s elite guards who had “The Miracle” Schrift, Gerard Valkyrie, was large enough that he could ward off superficial bankai and had a corresponding amount of strength and stamina."
Stated Gerard's size corresponds to his strength. Gerard gets 30× bigger their for 30× stronger now stack his holy forms and he gets over 100+ times stronger
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If I was Yhwach I would have made Gerard become a giant through the Miracle against the other Sternritters in the Shadow dimension and then have Gremmy create a giant portal on top of the Sereitei thousands of KM above it and drop Gerard Valkyrie on top of the Seireitei and have Gremmy drop meteors for 5 minutes none-stop.
Guacamolefletcher
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His size corresponds to his strength, yes, but you can't prove it's a 1:1 ratio. You can't prove that if he gets X times bigger he'll get exactly X times stronger. Also, "stack his holy forms" isn't a multiplier. You can't go making claims like this, this isn't how the whole powerscaling thing works. You can hypothesize it'd be that big of an amp, yes, you can "theorize" but it's not useful or good to go spreading.
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The term corresponding means equivalent. So if he get 10× bigger so does his strength. You tried tho.
Holy froms are at least 5× since the qunicy consider it better if not equal to a bankai. Bambietta didn't even care about getting her bankai taken because holy form is just better
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Ichigo getting his ass beat by a casual ulquiorra only to find out he wasn’t even the top guy was honestly hilariously
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Genuinely speaking Is the Espada ranking even accurate.
Apart from cien is it even concrete
Cause I think second release ulquiora is the strongest.
Apart from cien is it even concrete
Cause I think second release ulquiora is the strongest.
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