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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Arc7Kuroi said:
Nope. Please go read and familiarize yourself with the multipliers standards page. 5-10x “combat ability” is not the same as 5-10x all stats dude. Be so for real, like cmon it’s not that hard.
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I see. Then what does yoroichi statement mean? And how you gonna decide which gives amp and which not?
 
Adam1396 said:
I see. Then what does yoroichi statement mean? And how you gonna decide which gives amp and which not?
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Easy, lemme give you an example: Ichigo’s og Bankai is stated to increase his speed. Therefore we can apply the 5x to his speed. Here’s another example: Ikkaku’s Bankai is stated to increase his raw attack energy. Therefore it is 5x AP. When a Bankai specifies it increases a stat we can apply 5x to it. But like a Bankai akin to Mayuri’s doesn’t have any such statement, and all his Bankai is is a hax baby giant. It increases his combat ability by giving him more powerful hax. You can increase your combat ability without having your stats increase.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Easy, lemme give you an example: Ichigo’s og Bankai is stated to increase his speed. Therefore we can apply the 5x to his speed. Here’s another example: Ikkaku’s Bankai is stated to increase his raw attack energy. Therefore it is 5x AP. When a Bankai specifies it increases a stat we can apply 5x to it. But like a Bankai akin to Mayuri’s doesn’t have any such statement, and all his Bankai is is a hax baby giant. It increases his combat ability by giving him more powerful hax. You can increase your combat ability without having your stats increase.
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I don't think it works like that. It's more like different bankai gives greater boost to different aspect of stats. Eg: ichigo's bankai gives boost to every aspect of stats. If it's 5x for AP, Dura- it's 10x for speed.
 
Adam1396 said:
that's funny. why would she learn kaido for zaraki if she can heal without costing reiryoku?
she was formerly killer not healer. So it's more likely healing attributes developed later or she didn't even have shikai back then. And both her shikai , bankai reflects her character perfectly after that fight.

Also assuming bankai unohana was included in that statement, she should still scale higher than eyepatch shikai zaraki as it seems eyepatch removal is greater amp. Though it's unquantifiable by this wiki standard.
BTW stomping was a hilarious take.

it' canon

Then why not add it?

Anyway my point was to claim unohana had bankai back then, you have to accept all captains automatically have bankai including founding captains.
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Assuming the Bankai got new abilities when Unohana didn't fight at all during the gap between her first and second duels with Kenny is a funny headcanon. Old captains don't get stronger.

It doesn't follow from Bankai Unohana being stated to be weaker than Kid Zaraki that she's equal to Shikai Kenny. What?
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Easy, lemme give you an example: Ichigo’s og Bankai is stated to increase his speed. Therefore we can apply the 5x to his speed. Here’s another example: Ikkaku’s Bankai is stated to increase his raw attack energy. Therefore it is 5x AP. When a Bankai specifies it increases a stat we can apply 5x to it. But like a Bankai akin to Mayuri’s doesn’t have any such statement, and all his Bankai is is a hax baby giant. It increases his combat ability by giving him more powerful hax. You can increase your combat ability without having your stats increase.
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Just out of curiosity, would there be anything inherently wrong with trying to get a similar multiplier accepted for Resurreccion using the "several times" statement we get from the databooks, and applying a 3x amp to the specific stats of Resurreccions that have been stated to amp them, like Ulquiorra's release being known for its offensive ability maybe applying for AP? Or did that approach just result in too much multiplier fuckery to be consistent when you were working on AP revisions?
 
That_moron2 said:
Its too vague. Like arc said, it could refer to a lot of things from Hax to Speed to A.P. I will say Ulq does clearly have higher A.P in his first release.
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Arc7Kuroi said:
Yup that’s why it’s not a multiplier
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Ok, now it makes sense to me. Since that statement about his first release was used in his AP justification without giving his AP a 3x amp, I was under the impression that we didn't give Res multipliers the Bankai treatment in the first place, but now I understand. Thanks.
 
no,you can't just ask about stuff,get and answer and say thanks,you are meant to mald and scream about "MY MULTIPLIERS,MY 2-C BLEACH,UNOHANA STRONK".
anyway as for Murcielago getting a multiplier,just hope a random Klub outside question arrives one day or a databook or Grimmjow/Urahara glazing Resurrecion.
Patience is a virtue after all.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Off site, I think it’s fine to say Ulq’s Res is a 5-10x amp based around him showing tremendous increases in all his stats, but on site we abide by our set standards. Which are a bit stricter but it’s not really a big deal.
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Wait you telling me we don't have to use the sites strict standards off site?
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Shut the fvck up you goon cave dweller
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