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U didnt get my point at all, whatever that was, the manga explained the reason and it has nothing to do with transcendence. Simple as that
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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also here is the raw for the infamous page:
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No, she states why she didn't feel a reishi shockwave she never once mentioned why she couldn't feel his spiritual pressure
Not perceived by Inoue.
Quilge's Vollstandig pulsates with spiritual power, in fact he directly states his power is pulsating.
You have no idea what argument from incredulity is, it appears.
No? Ayon loses to Yamamoto in FKT, that doesn't make you fodder. Then there's 17 months for Ayon to get stronger.
Wah wah cry about it
1. Ayon went from weaker than Yama to stronger than Fullbring Shikai Ichigo, unless you're claiming Yama < most Captains.
2. Do you know it's implied in databooks that Yama got stronger since FKT, I know it's a crazy concept, but characters normally train after they lose, wild I know.
3. Pure headcanon, and don't equate reishi to reiatsu, they're different.
Y'all need educated.
Such major misconceptions on transcendence.
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What's with people trying to make every TYBW character transcendent? I mean, Quilge... Seriously?
Anyway, onto something regarding Yhwach;
This is listed on Yhwach's profile for breaking Ichigo's Bankai in all futures;
For example;
Anyway, onto something regarding Yhwach;
This is listed on Yhwach's profile for breaking Ichigo's Bankai in all futures;
It's treated as Regeneration Negation, but shouldn't it be something like Causality Negation and Time-Reversal Negation, given that it's literally stated in the manga that Orihime doesn't heal things, she reverts them to a prior state, and yet she couldn't revert Ichigo's Bankai to how it was before Yhwach broke it.
For example;
In practice, this would essentially mean that anything Yhwach destroys and rewrites in the future can't be repaired through reversing time/events or manipulating causality, though obviously it has its limits and it can't negate all levels of causality manipulation.
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She states she can't sense both reishi particles as well as reiatsu.
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Precisely, then she explains why she cannot feel the reishi particles, she never comments again on the reiatsu.
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It's called being a damn smooth brain for ******* sure...
Yeah that looks about right. She calls it healing but as hell ain't doing that. It's called inverse retardation which seeps into the fanbase's retardation
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She wasn't feeling excessive reiatsu from his transformation. Either that or Quilge doesn't emit reiatsu at all which is obviously not true.
And what's the ******* Japanese word used here? He didn't state his spiritual power is pulsating, he said his power was.
You have no idea what logic is apparently. Ichigo has insane evolution rates because he's a hybrid. Allon can't have evolution rates because he's been summoned twice dammit.
Getting one-shot by his base form does. This is the second time Allon gets summoned, he didn't have the time to get stronger.
Yeah you actually unironically just look at bleach from a vs battle verse standpoint rather than a manga one.
I'm saying Yama is above Fullbring shikai Ichigo by a wide margin.
the databooks aren't above manga. It's pretty clear that as stated by Yhwach he's become weaker.
At this point you're not even reading what I'm saying. Both reishi and reiatsu are mentioned, and not interchangeably.
This is the problem when you spend all day on VS battle stuff and actually forget the piece of media you're reading. "Can this be used for scale? How far can I wank my characters? CALCS? POWERCLIFFING?"
Make a CRT on Quilge. Let's get everyone from ******* High 6-A to High 6-A. What a way to win arguments, by strong arming the other party.
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just make a narrative argument for base aizen being something unattainable, even for the shinigami 2 years later
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And Quilge asks Ichigo if he can feel the pulse of his power in the same scan Orihime says she can’t feel his Reiatsu. Also this scans proves characters get their energy back after launching it? Or that Ichigo can absorb others spiritual pressure?Yeah, I noticed that so I went and re-read the VIZ.
Well Quilge has spiritual pressure, Orihime couldn't sense it in Voll Stern Dich, she only comments on the reason she didn't feel reishi was because reishi was absorbed, but makes no additional mention of spiritual pressure.
Albeit Ayon dookies on him kinda, although Ayon isn't exactly a limiter tbf, since if he can shit stomp Voll Stern Dich Quilge, he'd kick FB Shikai Ichigo's teeth in too.
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You cannot prove that claim whatsoever.
Objectively false, but whatever helps you cope.
Depending on which Yama, I see nothing wrong with this.
ooooooooooooooooooof, you realize Yhwach said Yama got weaker mentally not physically right? Here: L
Everyone already is High 6-A... mrk
"Wah wah Arc is a meanie and only cares about powerscaling" yeah mhm ok buddy, go reread my recent god tier thread, I included an entire narrative analysis of Yhwach's goals
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Yeah I'm still going to go through the a lot of Bleach before I form a full opinion on the implications that. It's interesting to say the least.
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Just...******* forget it
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Ichigo did in 3 months. Lol 17 months is x 5+ that.
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At least count correctly you dumbfuck. 5 times 3 is god **** 15 + 2.
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Hope you forget breathing as wellKenpachi > transcendent Hikone
We have to forget that too.
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If anything, all that proves is that transcendence isn't obtainable by having high Reiatsu, but instead is actually a state of being like Isshin said, so to be transcendent, you need to at least be a hybrid or whatever the Hogyoku turns you into.Kenpachi > transcendent Hikone
We have to forget that too.
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Dude **** off, Apple said its more than 5 times 3. x 5+ "5+" means more than 5.
God you're becoming insufferable.
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GOOD. At least you're suffering from it as well
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Additionally, Kenpachi being able to oneshot transcendent beings would prove that being transcendent doesn't put you above the verse.
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It would be one possible explanation yeah
It could also be that Kenpachi is special and basically has no limits as a Shinigami, but isn't really transcendent because he's not a hybrid.
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Considering how much Kubo bullied Kenny in the TYBW, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone scales to him come Hell Arc.
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Their arms go squelch when they summon him, Inoue healed them the first time and she's the only healer capable of doing shit like that.
Someone doesn't know what objectivity is
I'd take that L if losing an arm was something you could reverse with TRAINING. It isn't. It literally limits your reiatsu, see Aizen vs Urahara
Yeah and we have no way to get anyone to 5-C
So that you could justify universal bleach lol and there's a difference between a meanie and a troll. A meanie's like 9-A and above depending on species, a troll is like low complex multiversal (1-C) because they mess with the narrative.
Anyone who was actually interested in the narrative would see the problem with "every quincy transcendent" argument. But anyone who's only interested in powerscaling would believe in "tImeSkiP pOWeRcliFFinG" even when normal shinigami (not Ichigo) takes centuries for achieving bankai and a decade for mastering it, indicating a stupid amount of training is needed for even small increments in power. But nah man, vs battle shit means everything works like ******* Naruto, Fate or DBZ.
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what is x5? 15. What is +? More than 15.
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Anyhow I'm also realising that I'm getting worked up in a forum with heinously stupid shit like the term "low complex multiversal" and "higher dimensional hax" so I'm actually going to chill and take my leave. At least I know arc is a splendid lawyer for wanking bleach to High heaven and I'm a bleach fan anyways so get bleach to 5-A and everyone to FTL champ I believe in you ("I'm (yet again) based" when?)
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And you'd realize how many Lawyers are in hell
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Nice, I'll take the concession.
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Also this time argument is irrelevant, Ichigo gets powerful so fast because he's a 4 way hybrid. No one else can achieve anywhere near that rate of growth, according to both narrative and statements. It doesn't matter if its 17 months or 17 years.
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what is wank is often up to interpretation. bleach is nebulous with that due to being very open to interpretation. I cant tell you the number of forums ive seen that outcry our las noches/seireitei size as wank despite the manga/novels essentially establishing they can be that size and it would be consistent enough. Our accepted dimensions sizes are contested as well obviously. you have narutoforums having soul society at not even being a planet, spacebattles having it as a planet, some forums at multi solar, etc. "wank" is very much to the eye of the beheldor
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heck there are still multiple forums that have prime reio separating the realms as being done by the almighty, despite the official translations
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Cringe
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bruh that isnt even the worst. i saw dangai ichigo busting the mountain argued as "matter manip" because "destruction like that isnt possible"
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kinda based
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Those aren't mountains,
Hill level Bleach still going strong in some forums.
