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I mean, u cant count it like that, I used to fight for 5 boxing rounds straight but for running I couldnt run for straight 10 minutes using my full speed, but for bleach is different because Ichigo can run for 3 days on a device that drains his reiatsu, also they are using super natural powers so its different than irl process, thats my opinion at leastIrl fighting drains more stamina than running tbh. Ichigo can fight for months so he can run for months
I mean realistically half power FH Ichigo > SE Ulq, but SE Ulq scales to 6-A+ so...^ that's what I was referring to.
Multi-Continent levelwith Hollowfication (Injured a Resurrección Yammywhile at roughly half power. At full power he injured Aizen Sosuke with a surprise attack.)
I’m confused here is half power Ichigo with mask above Zangetsu?Continent level+ (Overpowered Ulquiorra's Cero Oscuras and destroyed his Lanza del Relámpago)
Multi-Continent level (Overpowered Ulquiorra's Cero Oscuras and crushed his Lanza del Relampago)
The wiki started as Bleach anime only.Yes but then they also put the anime filler on the main pages instead of putting it on a separate page like they do with the novel stuff. If it neither are canon, why keep one on the main page that is supposedly for the canon stuff and not the other?
No Masked Ichigo's rating is at full power, and it's from being relative to Aizen.I’m confused here is half power Ichigo with mask above Zangetsu?
And on Zangetsu page he’s High 6-A
Multi-Continent level (Overpowered Ulquiorra's Cero Oscuras and crushed his Lanza del Relampago)
Continent level+ (Overpowered Ulquiorra's Cero Oscuras and destroyed his Lanza del Relámpago)
Continent level+ (Overpowered Ulquiorra's Cero Oscuras and destroyed his Lanza del Relámpago), Multi-Continent level with Full Power (At least 2x stronger than before as his Shihakushō, which indicates his power, was only at half, when he fought Ulquiorra)
He'd be stronger than Dangai.What if Ichigo never lost his shinigami power but lost his 3 months of Dangai training and during the span of time he trained for 17 months straight?
They kinda went over that during the fullbring arc didnt they? His powers where just locked very deepWhat if Ichigo never lost his shinigami power but lost his 3 months of Dangai training and during the timeskip he trained for 17 months straight?
No. He wasn't training for those 17 months and his methods of training are very different. straight training normally vs straight training in the dangai with his Zanpakutou in conflict are very different situationsThey kinda went over that during the fullbring arc didnt they? His powers where just locked very deep
He also says all darkness from the living and the death which makes it dimensional range.I was reading Ichibē's profile and it states his range is thousands of km because of senri tsutenshuto. Shouldn't it be higher, since we see his shikai release affecting like a random lizard in the outskirts of the seireitei? What's the accepted distance between the Soul King Palace and Seireitei anyways?
Edit: He does say that all the darkness in the world is his to take, with multiple shots from within Seireitei to hammer that home. Shouldn't his range be at least planetary, since that's what the author clearly intended to show?
Buff all quincy and by default captains to above butterfly aizen, statement says that Aizen was trash compared to them so by scaling and flawless logic it must be true that all quincy are above Aizen, and thus by default all captains.
Quilge thinks Aizen is trash. :3
Can't properly find the Auswahlen to Liltotto distance, thus the feat cannot be calc'd.Also, was there ever a reason Auswhalen and dodging Auswhalen didn't make everyone FTL, or atleast have FTL reactions?
But you could calc the distance between soul society and sk palace, and we know that it took about as long as it took Oetsu to finish a thought for it to make 2 round trips. So some speed calc might be possible, no?Can't properly find the Auswahlen to Liltotto distance, thus the feat cannot be calc'd.
Auswahlen ain't light speed either.
Yeah a speed feat for the God Tiers.But you could calc the distance between soul society and sk palace, and we know that it took about as long as it took Oetsu to finish a thought for it to make 2 round trips. So some speed calc might be possible, no?
Quilge was beaten to a pulp by Allon, who's much stronger than him AP wise. We know Allon can be easily shat on (pardon the language) by Genryuusai in base form. Aizen in base form should at least be comparable to Genryuusai, and Aizen was most definitely not transcendent at that point in time. He and Genryuusai were at the limits of what a shinigami can do.Is there any other evidence to support Orihime's theory in this page? Orihime has no knowledge on transcendent beings and every Quincy in the manga has shown to have reiatsu and be felt by others including Soul King Yhwach who the light novels confirmed to be transcendent.
I believe Quilge is a Quincy who achieve mastery of all forms like base Aizen did. On the border of fighting transcendent beings like Kenpachi did but not transcendent himself.
"To a Quincy, spirit particles aren't something to be emitted, they're something to be absorbed...! And all the more so if their power has been perfected to this level...!"Is there any other evidence to support Orihime's theory in this page? Orihime has no knowledge on transcendent beings and every Quincy in the manga has shown to have reiatsu and be felt by others including Soul King Yhwach who the light novels confirmed to be transcendent.
I believe Quilge is a Quincy who achieve mastery of all forms like base Aizen did. On the border of fighting transcendent beings like Kenpachi did but not transcendent himself.
She said his reiatsu could not be felt when he transformed into Vollstanding, nothing to do with his reishi absorption which she theorize later on."To a Quincy, spirit particles aren't something to be emitted, they're something to be absorbed...! And all the more so if their power has been perfected to this level...!"
I don't think it has to do with transcendence. It cannot be felt because his ability to absorb has been perfected, and thus all his power is being absorbed into him rather than emitted.
Is there any other evidence to support Orihime's theory in this page? Orihime has no knowledge on transcendent beings and every Quincy in the manga has shown to have reiatsu and be felt by others including Soul King Yhwach who the light novels confirmed to be transcendent.
I believe Quilge is a Quincy who achieve mastery of all forms like base Aizen did. On the border of fighting transcendent beings like Kenpachi did but not transcendent himself.
Apple trying to meme rn. Transcendent quilge
People in VSBW were claiming the other day that Base Aizen shat on Yamamoto, without any injures, does that make Yamamato weak too?Quilge was beaten to a pulp by Allon, who's much stronger than him AP wise. We know Allon can be easily shat on (pardon the language) by Genryuusai in base form. Aizen in base form should at least be comparable to Genryuusai, and Aizen was most definitely not transcendent at that point in time. He and Genryuusai were at the limits of what a shinigami can do.
All transcendent, near transcendent or suspected transcendent characters have incredibly high strength (Ichigo, Yhwach, Aizen, Ichibē, Kenpachi, Genryuusai (?)), none of which has Quilge shown. Furthermore he chose to outhax Allon instead of actually destroying him even when he didn't want to. He was also, after that absorption, inferior to bankai Ichigo who was pretty below Base Yhwach, who was getting smacked around by Ichibē who's almost certainly transcendent.
TLDR: no
Do you read? Come one go quote me where I said he wasn't transcendent. Because I literally say he wasn't transcendent.Apple reaching transcendent levels of wank. Probably why I can't even comprehend it anymore.
Yeah, I noticed that so I went and re-read the VIZ.She said his reiatsu could not be felt when he transformed into Vollstanding, nothing to do with his reishi absorption which she theorize later on.
People saying shit doesn't matter. Aizen made Wonderweiss specifically to counter Yamamoto, he couldn't escape his grip and had Kyoka Suigetsu negated when he stabbed Yamamoto, Yamamoto himself wasn't taking Aizen seriously both after seeing him destroy other captains and after obviously feeling his reiatsu. There's a bunch of gold in their interaction, but it's pretty clear Aizen holds Yamamoto above him. As he should, there's literally nothing Aizen can do in base to beat him.People in VSBW were claiming the other day that Base Aizen shat on Yamamoto, without any injures, does that make Yamamato weak too?
So? Arguments from incredulity aren't exactly arguments, no? We aren't scaling Allon to Ichigo, we're scaling him from Yamamoto. Or is it considered somewhere that FB Shikai Ichigo is transcendent?Ayon isn't exactly a limiter tbf, since if he can shit stomp Voll Stern Dich Quilge, he'd kick FB Shikai Ichigo's teeth in too.
Yeah it's meant to be Kubo stating that a Volständig isn't accompanied by a massive surge of reiatsu like a bankai which is how they're different from something like a bankai or a resureccion. It's called narrative exposition I think? Why are we debating statements straight from the manga anyways?Whats the point here? Orihime literally explained that its because quincy dont emit reiatsu, its clear as hell, transcendence shit for Quilge doesnt work and its headcanon lol
Reread the scans mrk, Orihime says they dont emit reishi not reiatsu. Don't perpetuate the stereotype that Bleach fans can't readWhats the point here? Orihime literally explained that its because quincy dont emit reiatsu, its clear as hell, transcendence shit for Quilge doesnt work and its headcanon lol
I've yet to make a claim, don't be so hasty.So? Arguments from incredulity aren't exactly arguments, no? We aren't scaling Allon to Ichigo, we're scaling him from Yamamoto. Or is it considered somewhere that FB Shikai Ichigo is transcendent?
Orihime also says he isn't emitting a spirit particle shockwave, which story wise is unlike what a bankai does and is clearly here to set a contrast with a bankai. Considering she's actually never seen a bankai release too (which is ******* insane to think, but its true somehow lol) we can assume this is Kubo expositing through her. So when Orihime says that obviously it's because of how quincy work, that's why reiatsu isn't being felt.Reread the scans mrk, Orihime says they dont emit reishi not reiatsu. Don't perpetuate the stereotype that Bleach fans can't read
There are some weird statements being made here though...I've yet to make a claim, don't be so hasty.
Uh no it's more that Quilge Opie can't be transcendent because he got beat up by Allon, who isn't transcendent. By far. Again, Yamamoto ain't transcendent even in bankai, he's strong enough in base to absolutely annihilate Allon, and transcendence is intricately linked to strength. Quilge Opie isn't transcendent.Y'all getting really scared of the potential powercliff huh?
That's not really an argument. Look, I'm not exactly a native English speaker and I can't understand tone from text alone. If this is just a joke gone too far, I don't need to actually explain the obvious fact that Quilge isn't OP and waste my time. So if I'm actually missing something, just let me know. I'm not "pissed off" or anything like that, just incredulous that this argument is even being made.Y'all getting really scared of the potential powercliff huh?