BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Guacamolefletcher]

Here is the upgrade Ya'll needed

Royd revision

This is our current scaling: FB Bankai Ichigo + Rage amp ~< Yhwach FB Bankai Ichigo > Kisuke ~ Base Aizen ~< Yamamoto So basically, FB Bankai Ichigo is unquantifiably stronger than someone relative to Yamamoto, then with a rage amp equal to Yhwach. Here's what's new: Q: Royd Lloyd, the younger...

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[Crobatman44]

Here is the upgrade Ya'll needed

Royd revision

This is our current scaling: FB Bankai Ichigo + Rage amp ~< Yhwach FB Bankai Ichigo > Kisuke ~ Base Aizen ~< Yamamoto So basically, FB Bankai Ichigo is unquantifiably stronger than someone relative to Yamamoto, then with a rage amp equal to Yhwach. Here's what's new: Q: Royd Lloyd, the younger...

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Awesome having to wait 2/3 years for a slam dunk Askin Upgrade is a bit of a pain but honestly it's not that long of a wait all things considered.
If this gets accepted and we don't have a CRT or new scaling that changes what Askin could get Obviously.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

50 bucks says Askin won’t scale to Kisuke’s full power anyway

 

[AnimesFreak2]

50 bucks says Askin won’t scale to Kisuke’s full power anyway

Unless the anime retcons Kisuke being weakened

 

[Crobatman44]

50 bucks says Askin won’t scale to Kisuke’s full power anyway

I was more talking about getting beat up by Yoruichi unless she won't scale above her anti hierro armor self?

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

I was more talking about getting beat up by Yoruichi unless she won't scale above her anti hierro armor self?

She can't scale to her Anti-Hierro armor self because she has connective scaling below Base Aizen. She's ~ Tokinada and ~ Byakuya, when Tokinada produces Ryujin Jakka flames far weaker than Yamamoto's and his copy of Kyoka Suygestu develops extra flaws Aizen's never had.

 

[Crobatman44]

She can't scale to her Anti-Hierro armor self because she has connective scaling below Base Aizen. She's ~ Tokinada and ~ Byakuya, when Tokinada produces Ryujin Jakka flames far weaker than Yamamoto's and his copy of Kyoka Suygestu develops extra flaws Aizen's never had.

Ah ok,thanks for Explaining.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Yeah Yoruichi with her anti Hierro armor is stronger than all her other versions

 

[Crobatman44]

Yeah Yoruichi with her anti Hierro armor is stronger than all her other versions

Best i can get is Kisuke throwing a kido at Askin and him tanking it then i suppose.
(During the Yoruichi + Kisuke vs Base Askin segment i mean,not Kisuke vs Vollständig Askin)

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Yeah Yoruichi with her anti Hierro armor is stronger than all her other versions

Yet I got mf's who genuinely believe her lightning cat form is stronger just cause it's a transformation she has in the final arc where everyone is getting stronger now...so logically that includes Yoruichi despite the fact Kisuke's battle with Askin plus CFYOW scaling debunk the crap out of this

That and they just horny lol

 

[Malekith]

I believe that the askin vs Yoruichi fight will be much more elaborate, do you believe that what her brother brought was a possible artifact from the shihoin clan? I believe they don't use swords, it looked like a spear or halberd

 

[Crobatman44]

I believe that the askin vs Yoruichi fight will be much more elaborate, do you believe that what her brother brought was a possible artifact from the shihoin clan? I believe they don't use swords, it looked like a spear or halberd

I Think while wahrwelt fight wise(at least the ones we know in canon),while the cour 3 one's (Bazz-B vs Jugram,Mayuri and Nemu vs Pernida and Shunsui and Nanao vs Lille) will probably be relatively unchanged,i think the final 4 fights of TYBW vs Askin,Gerard,Jugram and Yhwach will be where major changes will happen.

 

[Arcker123]

Kubo is not massively changing the plots of those fights or sum. He's just gonna give them better conclusions, like showing how Kisuke saved everyone from Askin's suicide attack.

 

[Crobatman44]

Kubo is not massively changing the plots of those fights or sum. He's just gonna give them better conclusions, like showing how Kisuke saved everyone from Askin's suicide attack.

I meant mostly extensions,i don't think the fight outcomes(outside of maybe Gerard) will change at all.

 

[Malekith]

Yes, the results of the fights will not change, I'm talking about better work on the dynamics of the fights, adding new attacks/circumstances to make them better

 

[Reio35]

If we say first invasion yhwach is on the same level as 2nd invasion yhwach. Then that means shikai yamamoto is relative to unsealed S0 since Yhwach fights relative to icihibei and we know Yama is equal to 70% yhwach in shikai and over 10× stronger in bankai

Yhwach did get a amp in the 2nd invasion and another massive amp after regaining his true power. But we don't know by how much. Yamamoto is stated to be the strongest soul reaper so tbh it would make sense for yhwach to not get much stronger during the 2nd invasion as that would put yama above ichibei.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Everyone boo this man

 

[Westcoast5005]

If we say first invasion yhwach is on the same level as 2nd invasion yhwach. Then that means shikai yamamoto is relative to unsealed S0 since Yhwach fights relative to icihibei and we know Yama is equal to 70% yhwach in shikai and over 10× stronger in bankai

Yhwach did get a amp in the 2nd invasion and another massive amp after regaining his true power. But we don't know by how much. Yamamoto is stated to be the strongest soul reaper so tbh it would make sense for yhwach to not get much stronger during the 2nd invasion as that would put yama above ichibei.

isn’t it only stated that no soul reaper between the time Yama was alive was stronger. This wouldn’t include ichibe and oetsu as they existed before him

 

[Deceived3596]

If we say first invasion yhwach is on the same level as 2nd invasion yhwach. Then that means shikai yamamoto is relative to unsealed S0 since Yhwach fights relative to icihibei and we know Yama is equal to 70% yhwach in shikai and over 10× stronger in bankai

Yhwach did get a amp in the 2nd invasion and another massive amp after regaining his true power. But we don't know by how much. Yamamoto is stated to be the strongest soul reaper so tbh it would make sense for yhwach to not get much stronger during the 2nd invasion as that would put yama above ichibei.

We ain't scaling Yamamoto to 4-A

 

[AnimesFreak2]

If we say first invasion yhwach is on the same level as 2nd invasion yhwach. Then that means shikai yamamoto is relative to unsealed S0 since Yhwach fights relative to icihibei and we know Yama is equal to 70% yhwach in shikai and over 10× stronger in bankai

Yhwach did get a amp in the 2nd invasion and another massive amp after regaining his true power. But we don't know by how much. Yamamoto is stated to be the strongest soul reaper so tbh it would make sense for yhwach to not get much stronger during the 2nd invasion as that would put yama above ichibei.

Yamamoto does not even come close to Base Ichibei let alone Full Power Ichibei...

 

[Excellence616]

Senna (Bleach)

Senna (茜雫) is a Shinigami that Ichigo and Rukia encounter in the real world. In actuality, Senna is the Shinenju a being that is composed entirely out of memories of lost souls. Tier: 6-B, Low 4-C when releasing all of the Blanks energy at once Name: Senna Origin: Bleach Gender: Female Age...

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No 4-A for her?

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Yamamoto is stated to be the strongest soul reaper

this isn't actually true, for anyone reading

as that would put yama above ichibei

absurd Yama wank

No 4-A for her?

No? Obviously not, because she doesn't shake any universes.

 

[Crobatman44]

this isn't actually true, for anyone reading

absurd Yama wank


No? Obviously not, because she doesn't shake any universes.

Adding to this,she also does not have scaling above or relative to the characters who do make the Bleach verse thug shake.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Adding to this,she also does not have scaling above or relative to the characters who do make the Bleach verse thug shake.

no

Nothing like that, the only reason she was basically a god tier before was because her feat was impressive

 

[Crobatman44]

no

Nothing like that, the only reason she was basically a god tier before was because her feat was impressive

No i meant that she has nothing to link her to the 4-A characters so there's no reason to make her 4-A as well.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Everyone boo this man

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

 

[Reio35]

Just saying it's possible that Yamamoto is up their

 

[AnimesFreak2]

No one is saying Yamamoto isn't a Top Tier still ( CFYOW and now the TBYW Anime re-iterate he still very relevant in power )

But we know for a fact he isn't fp squad zero level in the slightest

 

[SuperStar]

Yhwach Vs. Gojo

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[Crobatman44]

Yhwach Vs. Gojo

Yhwach Vs. Satoru Gojo Fight Location: SBA Battle Music Base Yhwach Shinjuku Showdown Arc Gojo Starting Distance: 1 KM Speed Equal Both in character Win by any means Vs. Yhwach: Gojo: Goku Victims:

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Gojo out here with unlimited vs threads

 

[Westcoast5005]

Shouldn’t uryu have a greate causality manip on his profile has he was able to affect Yhwach abilities why orihime could not

 

[Valeska24]

Bro what?

 

[Valeska24]

Shouldn’t uryu have a greate causality manip on his profile has he was able to affect Yhwach abilities why orihime could not

If you mean where Uryuu nulled Yhwach's powers with the silver arrow (because I didn't understand anything else you said) I will make an explanation accordingly

First of all, it's not even Uryuu's own power, it's an equipment that Ryuken made and gave him for a one-time use (even Uryuu states that they only have one chance when shooting the arrow and that Ichigo has to catch up in time, so if Ichigo didn't catch up in time, everything could have been over)

Anyway, even if that wasn't the case I doubt it would still be the case because when the arrow hits Yhwach, Yhwach realises in his last moments that he saw the wrong future, that the future he always thought was a dream was actually the right one, so in that case I doubt Uryuu would deserve such a tait.

 

[Ovy7]

Can't remember if this was in the TYBW CRT, but do we consider base Ichibe to be 5-10x stronger than 2nd Invasion Yhwach based on overpowering Yhwach's Blut with pure physical strength?

 

[LordTracer]

Can't remember if this was in the TYBW CRT, but do we consider base Ichibe to be 5-10x stronger than 2nd Invasion Yhwach based on overpowering Yhwach's Blut with pure physical strength?

Y‘know you could just look at Ichibe’s profile to find out

But yes, base Ichibe scales to 5x base Yhwach.

 

[Ovy7]

Y‘know you could just look at Ichibe’s profile to find out

Completely forgot about that xD

 

[Crobatman44]

Y‘know you could just look at Ichibe’s profile to find out

But yes, base Ichibe scales to 5x base Yhwach.

You see we bleach goons have the special skill to read with our eyes closed.
But in all honestly taking a look at the profiles is a fairly quick process.

 

[AppleLord]

Hey, shouldn’t Barragán be the same age as Ikomikidomoe? CFYOW info.

 

[Valeska24]