BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Aizen can create illusions out of nothing , proven by when he slashed Harribel , she attacked an illusion wich vanished afterward.

That doesn't really count since he is using what Harribel percieves as himself as the illusion and then attacking from behind as seen here

Aizen can also **** with your time perception , like against Yhwach.

I'm a little unsure of where this happens, I'll just leave this here so you can point out to me where is happens exactly

 

[Malekith]

I'm a little unsure of where this happens, I'll just leave this here so you can point out to me where is happens exactly

It was when Yhwach visited him at Mugen

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Aizen can also **** with your time perception , like against Yhwach.

Okay, I can understand that Aizen is able to drag out what seems like a few minutes to you to hours if not longer in the outside world, but's that not exactly like putting you in a torture chamber for 72 hours in a second or making you experience your entire life in a second

 

[Arcker123]

What a productive way to spend time everyone. Splendid job.

 

[Crobatman44]

Question out of Curiosity,could Vollständig Cang scale to TYBW Toshiro's Post training key because he broke out of his ice construct?

 

[Reio35]

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I think that's from "book of souls" they use isekai which is same word they use to wank momo to universal. I can mean many things tbh

 

[Reio35]

Now that i think about i think Senjumaru's bankai does weave fate. The name of her bankai means karmic fate. Also fact she weave a qunicy cross to kill uryu now i doubt her bankai would just randomly have qunicy ability. That's just her making his fate. She also made sand that counters perindas powers

 

[Naeblis495]

That doesn't really count since he is using what Harribel percieves as himself as the illusion and then attacking from behind as seen here

Huh ?

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Now that i think about i think Senjumaru's bankai does weave fate. The name of her bankai means karmic fate. Also fact she weave a qunicy cross to kill uryu now i doubt her bankai would just randomly have qunicy ability. That's just her making his fate. She also made sand that counters perindas powers

We could also just wait till it's actually explained next season ya know

 

[Crobatman44]

We could also just wait till it's actually explained next season ya know

Implying he understands the concept of Patience and waiting?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

From Shutara's own profile

Fate Manipulation, and Reality Warping (Upon activation, Senjumaru's true Bankai, Shatatsu Karagara Shigarami no Tsuji causes the heavens and earths of the three realms to tremble. Senjumaru's Bankai then summons large amounts of cloth that connect with each other to trap the opponent. The power of Shatatsu Karagara Shigarami no Tsuji allows Senjumaru to literally bring forth the fates of her opponent's defeat through weaving, eventually sealing them within the cloths[12])

 

[Crobatman44]

Question out of Curiosity,could Vollständig Cang scale to TYBW Toshiro's Post training key because he broke out of his ice construct?

Bumping this since i kinda want an answer.
Since Wonderweiss in FKT gets to scale for very similar reasons.(granted i dunno which of his feats is the one that gives him his High 6-A rating)

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

From Shutara's own profile

is reiatsu crushing instant? and can it be resisted if you resist soul manip and ee?

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

A new Scan for upgrading Ichigo just dropped. Feel free to use it

not funny

 

[That_moron2]

Also, is Uryu stronger than Jugram or what's happening with the profiles?

Always has been.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

https://pierrot.jp/title/bleach/keyword_sa.html

I would note, for anyone that's interested in using anything from this, that this would only be applicable for the old bleach anime, not the new one or the manga. I think this list has good support for other metas tho, since it got some blatant statements

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Also, is Uryu stronger than Jugram or what's happening with the profiles?

Since the anime has not adapted the Uryu Jugram fight yet, those scans and whatnot will be added when the anime gets there, be patient

 

[Crobatman44]

Since the anime has not adapted the Uryu Jugram fight yet, those scans and whatnot will be added when the anime gets there, be patient

I mean it would just be for Jugram's post Auswhalen key,his pre aushwhalen key is kinda gonna remain meh(sternritter wise) forever.

 

[Excellence616]

And over 9 days, he shall recover the world

Why are you guys bulling Naruto and One Piece after Bleach got upgraded?

Yhwach gets sliced up .... maybe

And you, are you sure you are

 

[Wankstasosuke]

Yhwach vs Acnologia

both are speed equal

vsbattles.com

 

[AnimesFreak2]

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

By the way, will Gremmy and Yhwach's victories in Vs Threads be included in their profiles?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

As long as they aren’t stomps and don’t restrict anything that would disallow it

 

[Lynieryz]

Shouldn't Yhwach have Ichimonji's powers in his profile?

 

[Crobatman44]

As long as they aren’t stomps and don’t restrict anything that would disallow it

Gremmy won't be added then,it was considered a stomp and closed.

 

[Arcker123]

Shouldn't Yhwach have Ichimonji's powers in his profile?

Yhwach should also have all the dead soul reapers powers but whatev

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

For Sasuke likely Fourth Shinobi World War version.

Would this work for Ulquiorra too?

And for both match-ups, should Reiatsu crush be an issue?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Would this work for Ulquiorra too?

And for both match-ups, should Reiatsu crush be an issue?

If you’re using Bleach characters that aren’t Quincy or aren’t Fullbringers (aka Hollow and Shinigami) then yes rc is an issue.

 

[Malekith]

There are 2 cours left until the end of tybw, do you think that Yhwach can have a development as good as Aizen's if he is worked on in the right way, or you would never come close to him as a Villain

 

[Crobatman44]

There are 2 cours left until the end of tybw, do you think that Yhwach can have a development as good as Aizen's if he is worked on in the right way, or you would never come close to him as a Villain

In the end the thing with Yhwach and Aizen is that they are somewhat different styles of Villains,but yes with good development Yhwach will probably become the Bleach major villain with the best depth.
I think Aizen will always be more popular cause both his design and character archtype are generally more popular.

 

[Naeblis495]

Yhwach already surpass Aizen in my book, characther wise.

The anime is on it's way to make it a stomp.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

If you’re using Bleach characters that aren’t Quincy or aren’t Fullbringers (aka Hollow and Shinigami) then yes rc is an issue.

To ask though, we don't see Ulq or Ichigo affecting any characters much stronger than them at the time, and does it work that only people much weaker than you experience reiatsu crush?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

To ask though, we don't see Ulq or Ichigo affecting any characters much stronger than them at the time, and does it work that only people much weaker than you experience reiatsu crush?

This isn't dragon ball. That is a product of soul manipulation, that by virtue of the Bleach verse is connected to characters strength, as those with stronger souls have more stats.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

This isn't dragon ball. That is a product of soul manipulation, that by virtue of the Bleach verse is connected to characters strength, as those with stronger souls have more stats.

What about for characters who have resistance to soul manipulation?

Also could I be provided an example of a Bleach character reiatsu crushinf something much stronger than them because of no resistance to soul manipulation?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

What about for characters who have resistance to soul manipulation?

Also could I be provided an example of a Bleach character reiatsu crushinf something much stronger than them because of no resistance to soul manipulation?

You have to prove they have comparable layers to the Bleach character

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

You have to prove they have comparable layers to the Bleach character

Looking at Sasuke's soul resistance, we only see the example of him overriding Orochimaru's Fushi Tensei to take Orochimaru's power instead, only for Orochimaru to come out when Sasuke is out of chakra

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Naruto doesn't have good soul resistance as a verse, they don't match up well with Bleach characters.

For example, the 3rd Hokage easily took out Hashirama and Tobirama's souls from Orochimaru's Edo Tensei using the Reaper Death Seal. They put up 0 resistance.

Nagato was easily going to tear out KCM Naruto's soul and Naruto had 0 resistance. He had to fight back using physical strength to pull his soul back.

It's not a soul based verse really. You'd do better finding another verse that actually implements soul mechanics or resistances.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Naruto doesn't have good soul resistance as a verse, they don't match up well with Bleach characters.

For example, the 3rd Hokage easily took out Hashirama and Tobirama's souls from Orochimaru's Edo Tensei using the Reaper Death Seal. They put up 0 resistance.

Nagato was easily going to tear out KCM Naruto's soul and Naruto had 0 resistance. He had to fight back using physical strength to pull his soul back.

It's not a soul based verse really. You'd do better finding another verse that actually implements soul mechanics or resistances.

Dragon ball has some.

But in canon it's for things more like EE.

Although DBH has a good resistance to soul manipulation because of a demon that can do this.

Soul Manipulation (His signature ability as a Grim Reaper. He can damage souls, cut souls, rip souls apart and even absorb souls. He can also nullify powers via damaging his opponents' soul or suck souls energy out of his victims, make them unable to use their power. Can also negate fusion or possession with his soul ability)

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

How are ya'll feeling about CFYOW Kenpachi vs Almighty Yhwach (no SK), where no hax are allowed for either side except power amplification

I wanna hear what the average Bleach supporter thinks on the matter

 

[Crobatman44]

How are ya'll feeling about CFYOW Kenpachi vs Almighty Yhwach (no SK), where no hax are allowed for either side except power amplification

I wanna hear what the average Bleach supporter thinks on the matter

Unironically in just stats Kenpachi might just take this?
Since the best Haxless Almighty Yhwach will get in scaling in theory is True shikai and then we have Proof of True Shikai>Mugetsu and Dangai.
But clowning on the Hikone who would force TYBW/CFYOW Aizen to try should just like,outright give Kenpachi the scaling/AP advantage in a big unga bunga sword to sword clash.
Oh and Shatting on Ikko.
Actually wait lemme check Dangai's profile for a sec.
Checked the AP values on the 3-C bleach characters,and while they aren't the end all be all,it ain't looking too hot for no Hax only raw AP and stats Almighty Yhwach ngl.