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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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How do you add Baraggan, Mask and Soi-Fon but not add Prime Soul King, Yhwach and Aizen 
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lame nobrainersHow do you add Baraggan, Mask and Soi-Fon but not add Prime Soul King, Yhwach and Aizen
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Nelliel via going from 10-C to 6-B instantly
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What's your argument to have Pepe and Yukio above Bankai Yamamoto?
I can see arguments for all others, but those two are sticking out to me rn.
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Equal stats?
Barragan would take out Askin, Pepe, Nozeil, Uryu, Toshiro, Senjumaru, Yukio, Lile before they even have the chance to activate their powers with his power to stop time around him and the power to turn them to ashes immediatly. How is Barragan not in your list?
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How do you have an equally bad statement of having Barragan above characters like Adult Toshiro, Uryu and Lille....
Baraggan doesn't even stop time, he slows it......
Baraggan doesn't even stop time, he slows it......
Twisted_Little_Raven
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Aizen wouldn't make a difference really part of reason he excelled is because his stats were far superior to everybody else. Why tf would I add the soul king and Yhwach they obviousHow do you add Baraggan, Mask and Soi-Fon but not add Prime Soul King, Yhwach and Aizen
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why isnt soi-fon anywhere in this list? she pretty much has a 1-shot kill ability, which only got negged because of aizen's massive reiatsu
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Yep, still those characters have no counter to his powers. Everything ages. Hax. "Equal stats", yo!
Twisted_Little_Raven
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Plus shunko amp allowed
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I hope you understand that Aizen has more things than just his raw power..... right? He has access to The Hogyoku which grants him immortality that makes him unkillable by basically everything in the verse, including Soi-Fon's Death Manipulation/Existence Erasure. He has complete access to all Kido's, ranging from Hado 90 which atomizes people when fully powered or multiple sealing Kido. He has access to Kyoka Suigetsu that allows him to control one's complete senses, including the sixth spiritual sense of souls, through nothing but you staring at his body.
Plus his immense skill and intelligence, he's absolutely above characters like Mask and Soi-Fon.
Adult Toshiro powernulls the aging mist.
Uryu "Antithesis" the aging mist into Baraggan's body.
Lille bypasses the aging by having an attack that produces no projectile and travels instantly.
All three have easily ways of beating Baraggan while Baraggan's main win-con is easily countered.
Twisted_Little_Raven
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Yama wouldn't do anything except zanka no tachi east but since it was only able to cut a small part of fake Yhwach cape, it wouldn't be a one shot. So it's only on the ground and shit where there is huge aoe
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He passively produces 15 million degree heats, both character aren't surviving that level of heat bruh. Neither character can counter this nor has resistances on that level. He just passively slaps them like he was going to do with Royd Loyd if he didn't have that strong ass blut.
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Reio, Aizen, Gerard and Yhwach just straight up won't die
Yukio just puts up a shield, if the Yukio she even tagged was the real him and not one of his clones
Gremmy just imagines the first Nigeki Kessatsu hit never happens
Jugram equalizes his misfortune of being hit once and rains down more misfortune on her with freund schild
Senjumau traps her in the black sand room
She can't hit Lille
Toshiro flash freezes her before she makes contact and if she does she's still cooked
Uryu slaps her with an antithesis any time he receives a homonka
As Nodt paralyses if not kills her just by her looking at his walls
Nigeki Kessatsu isn't THAT busted
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@Deceived3596 Lol Kenpachi survived the heat even while being unconscious. If stats are equal that means everyone is stronger than Kenpachi meaning they would survive the passive heat. As we know shikai Yama > kenpachi. And as for the aizen shit I was thinking shinigami aizen and he wouldn't have enough reiatsu to atomize anybody. Hado 90 full incant was being used by a transcendent stats equal he wouldn't have enough reiatsu to power hado 90 enough to one shot and nobody would let him fully cast it. Ichigo only did to show he was superior
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Aside from Prime Reio ofc, Gerard is kinda unbeatable in equal stats.
Gerard's Core Durability>Bankai Kenpachi>Post Kenpachi Gerard>Miracle Gerard>Gerard
Gerard's Core Durability>Bankai Kenpachi>Post Kenpachi Gerard>Miracle Gerard>Gerard
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Reio, Aizen, Gerard and Yhwach just straight up won't die
Yukio just puts up a shield, if the Yukio she even tagged was the real him and not one of his clones
Gremmy just imagines the first Nigeki Kessatsu hit never happens
Jugram equalizes his misfortune of being hit once and rains down more misfortune on her with freund schild
Senjumau traps her in the black sand room
She can't hit Lille
Toshiro flash freezes her before she makes contact and if she does she's still cooked
Uryu slaps her with an antithesis any time he receives a homonka
As Nodt paralyses if not kills her just by her looking at his walls
Nigeki Kessatsu isn't THAT busted
Why include God tiers they take up doors for being a no brainer stats equal or not their tier wouldn't change.
Yukio is blitzed by shunko or bamboozled by clones.
Except Gremmy is blitzed by shunko.
Jugram is getting insta killed so his fortune isn't doing anything.
Senjumaru's long ass ult/bankai startup is slower than shunko plus double tap
She can hit Lille he doesn't start out unhittable.
Toshiro could win.
Uryu could win but if the second one connects there is no swapping because he would be dead he would have to reverse the first one which he wouldn't bc he doesn't understand her power
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Kenpachi was never close to Bankai Yamamoto's passive aura, what are you talking about? I hope you understand that Kenpachi wasn't close to Yamamoto vs Royd Loyd, he was further away, hence why he wasn't harmed by the aura. Those who were actually close with Yamamoto were actively being damaged by the aura, such as Royd Loyd and Jugram. Both of whom are stronger than that version of Kenpachi.
He does have enough Reiryoku/Strength to power Hado 90 because he's being equalized at his strongest form, those who are being equalized are being equalized with him, not him being equalized with them.
Muken Aizen can cast Hado 90 with a basic thought, he did it against Yhwach's eyeball creatures. He doesn't need to use the full incantation like he did while in his Butterfly state.
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Doesn't Kenny eat like a trillion degrees in SAFWY?
Twisted_Little_Raven
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@Deceived3596 Yama sets him down literally a dozen meters away. Quincy pop up, he burns em, they fight on the roof, go back down to the fire area and he activates his bankai lol.
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Doesn't address my argument that he wasn't in the effective range of Yamamoto's constrained, passive bankai heat. Idk what to tell you.
Twisted_Little_Raven
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Range must be shit then LOL
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Real
Guacamolefletcher
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what is blud waffling about
Guacamolefletcher
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I mean like, they'd be like a hair away from moon level at their best high 6-A stuff
why? what are you basing that on
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I’ve known Raven enough now to no longer be surprised
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Hello bleachers, exalt in my glory and praise me as it is my birthday (in EST time atleast).
Guacamolefletcher
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Happy birthday, my birthday is off by a day (yesterday in my timezone)
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It was your birthday? If so happy belated birthday.
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They're not clones. They're afterimages. Aizen literally destroys Soi Fon and he's not even on this list. Somehow Nianzol is above him?
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I know stats are equal but Kyokasuigetsu is still Kyokasuigetsu. Also if you're counting amps, I'm pretty sure Ichigo going into Bankai is faster than Soi Fon using Shunko
