BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[YukaSama4]

I don't understand how they are still saying there is no proof that it scales to physical attacks or whatever, Arc and Imade clearly proved that the stabilization is done by spiritual energy aka Reiryuko which isn't some kind of special energy that is used for stabilization lmao everyone in the verse uses it in fighting how is it hard to understand that?
its like saying Zeno destroyed the universes by his Ki but I want a proof that it scales to his striking force and durability lol

 

[Arcker123]

I don't understand how they are still saying there is no proof that it scales to physical attacks or whatever, Arc and Imade clearly proved that the stabilization is done by spiritual energy aka Reiryuko which isn't some kind of special energy that is used for stabilization lmao everyone in the verse uses it in fighting how is it hard to understand that?
its like saying Zeno destroyed the universes by his Ki but I want a proof that it scales to his striking force and durability lol

Arc literally breaks down the raws and shows it mentions his power and it’s still being argued it doesn’t

 

[YukaSama4]

Arc literally breaks down the raws and shows it mentions his power and it’s still being argued it doesn’t

I don't think they have read his document

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

@Duedate8898 Can I ask what you mean by this “ or physically merge the universes together.” How else would they have merged and become one?

 

[Duedate8898]

Just by destroying one realm, it looks like you'd get the end goal of everything becoming one again in Bleach since the Soul Cycle gets disrupted either way and things merge together back into its original form.

That's what I meant.

 

[Arcker123]

Just by destroying one realm, it looks like you'd get the end goal of everything becoming one again in Bleach since the Soul Cycle gets disrupted either way and things merge together back into its original form.

That's what I meant.

This train of reasoning seems understandable

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Prime should just be Low 2-C. It’s already agreed he created all those things besides Hell which is stated to already exists. “Possibly” implies there is someone else as strong as him during that period capable of making all these things which we know is impossible. These other structures existing prior to his separation is also impossible.

 

[Arcker123]

This feels like watching an intense sports game tbh

 

[Tyri456]

3A or low2c is not that important at all, it should be discussed only after at least it is agreed there is the involment of an universal structure/s.
Either way, I believe what Duedate wrote is fine in terms of tiering.

 

[Arcker123]

I also agree with duedate and warren

 

[Torsin]

I would just like to point out that Yhwach's remnant power was present in the Wotl as well shown when Kazui destroyed it. So mostly he was affecting all the realms with his final attack.

 

[Arcker123]

The amount of “no one scales” kind of annoying tbh. It outright disregards the statements of Yhwach and reio using reiriyoku

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Mitch once again proves no one is reading these posts lol. This is just getting ridiculous at this point.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

yea, with his last comment he proved he did not read the doc

 

[Arcker123]

We have always scaled almighty to Yhwach, why the incredulity now

 

[Alive90Achilles]

I was about to mention that infamous Star Wars planet level feat (Infant of Shaa), and whether containing an artifact that was about to go off could also be a stabilization feat, since you are merely defusing the artifact before it went off instead of containing the explosion after the artifact actually exploded.

Btw do the ones who transcend the hyperspace get immeasurable speed due to that reason?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Reading some of the staff responses in the staff only thread are making me weak lmao

Me: "shows raw translations that prove that the universe creating/destroying power doesn't use the Almighty as the kanji are different"

Staff: "well ackchully it's fate hax"

 

[Arcker123]

Is universal fate hax something i can argue in vs threads

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

This Ginjo thing isn’t even true. This is what happens when you don’t read the novels and try to understand tidbits of it.

Ichigo is the only being that is a true replacement. He has the power and is the closest hybrid to being what the SK was.

Ginjo was suggested to be a possible replacement momentarily because he is also a hybrid and looked strong. Mind you none of these people know how strong Ichigo is lol.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

This Ginjo thing isn’t even true. This is what happens when you don’t read the novels and try to understand tidbits of it.

Ichigo is the only being that is a true replacement. He has the power and is the closest hybrid to being what the SK was.

Ginjo was suggested to be a possible replacement momentarily because he is also a hybrid and looked strong. Mind you none of these people know how strong Ichigo is lol.

Yeah I go over that in the doc, shame it hasn't been read

 

[Arcker123]

TOAA can you post some of this on the downgrade thread

 

[Ovy7]

I imagine that if you had posted the entire content of the doc as a post, people would have complained that it's too long or something.

 

[Duedate8898]

For everyone here, while your comments are not outright attacks they do come off as passive-aggressive and rude. You should all know what I mean, I ask that you keep those in private communications or just off-site.

 

[Arcker123]

Why were’s gin’s and TOAA arguments removed

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

For? If I see something incredibly wrong being constantly parroted for an extremely popular and controversial verse I’m going to comment on it. I’m not just gonna say nice post buddy.

 

[AKUTO123]

How much more can he show his response without reading the counter-arguments to staffing. They say, "Thanks to this Almigthy," without reading the counter argument, as if there is a line by heart. Have they really read the evidence and arguments that this is not with Almigthy? I just want an honest answer. Have you read the counter arguments that it was made with Almigthy please be honest staff

 

[LordGinSama]

It doesn't help the opposing sides case that Stabilization is done via Reitasu and we're given direct statements that the Relams in their entirety would be destroyed, not just a portion as Mitch misconceived.

 

[Duedate8898]

Why were’s gin’s and TOAA arguments removed

For being non-staff.

For? If I see something incredibly wrong being constantly parroted for an extremely popular and controversial verse I’m going to comment on it. I’m not just gonna say nice post buddy.

You can voice disagreement, but how you voice your disagreement can be more respectful that is all.

 

[Arcker123]

It doesn't help the opposing sides case that Stabilization is done via Reitasu and we're given direct statements that the Relams in their entirety would be destroyed, not just a portion as Mitch misconceived.

This is so thoroughly explained in arc’s doc it hurts

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

doubt any of them read it either because "too long feel lazy" or because "i already made my decision long ago"

 

[AKUTO123]

the staff reads the script in his hand over and over again without looking at the counter articles.

 

[LordGinSama]

Why were’s gin’s and TOAA arguments removed

LMAO I just now noticed, the comment was literally constructive and it was deemed to be fine earlier in the thread. So I'm not really sure why mine in particular was removed, I don't care much tbh but removing TOA's post was just a greasy maneuver.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

For being non-staff.

You can voice disagreement, but how you voice your disagreement can be more respectful that is all.

Please show me where I’m being “disrespectful” I didn’t call him a tard or anything. I simply made an observation he didn’t actually read the document at all and am posting what he blatantly stated is wrong.

 

[Arcker123]

What are the votes on that thread rofl

 

[M11UTD]

Some people don't understand that Ginjo just has the potential to be SK if he gets stronger and reach Ichigo's level in the future, that's it. He currently doesn't have that power and doesn't scale.

 

[Rikimarox2]

I imagine that if you had posted the entire content of the doc as a post, people would have complained that it's too long or something.

Christ, that would be sad.

Imagine writing an essay long post of well-made arguments, only for people to dismiss it, and say that it's too long. And then they go on without acknowledging it. That's like a huge ass "**** you" to the face.

 

[AKUTO123]

Please show me where I’m being “disrespectful” I didn’t call him a tard or anything. I simply made an observation he didn’t actually read the document at all and am posting what he blatantly stated is wrong.

Saying "did not read to the staff" is considered an insult. Is the person who says something contrary to the staff is insulting the staff or rude

 

[M11UTD]

I heard Mitch has some problems with IMade over some Fairy Tail stuff, so I wasn't really expecting him to give an honest thoughts on this.

 

[Duedate8898]

You know what nevermind, you all do whatever you so wish.
I am done here.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]