- 1,083
- 365
That got me good right there
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
- Thread starter Zoro21043
- Start date
- 1,083
- 365
With the upgrade to the SK palace to SS distance, it means Yhwach’s feat would now be FTL which can’t be calced using KE from what I understand. Arc correct me if I’m wrong lol
- 10,939
- 19,079
Raven, we're still waiting on that blog for the bee dodging feat. Stop ducking and dodging.
- 4,188
- 2,778
re-read the fight.
- 11,549
- 8,308
- 3,346
- 1,911
byakuya wank knows no bounds
- 11,536
- 3,092
I find it curious how Ichibei is able to release his bankai while another Squad Member is IN BANKAI and the 3 worlds didn’t tremble further in to chaos!
There are 2 possibilities:
A.) Ichibei sealed his own power (has we only saw 4 symbols on the blood oath) similar to the other Squad Zero members.
B.) The worlds will shake further at the start of Cour 3 as we see Uryu out of Senjumaru’s mind control bankai stage.
That’s 2 Zero Squad Members Bankai at the same time!
There are 2 possibilities:
A.) Ichibei sealed his own power (has we only saw 4 symbols on the blood oath) similar to the other Squad Zero members.
B.) The worlds will shake further at the start of Cour 3 as we see Uryu out of Senjumaru’s mind control bankai stage.
That’s 2 Zero Squad Members Bankai at the same time!
- 3,346
- 1,911
maybe ichibe is separated from the other 4 since he's the leader, and doesn't share the same limit?
- 3,235
- 1,973
No don't do it Kubo.
- 11,536
- 3,092
Oh, no I am not talking about the limit. I’m more saying, “how come the worlds didn’t shake harder!” There were 2 bankai released at the same time!
I believe Uryu will defeat Senjumaru on episode 1 of Cour 3 and Ichibei then will release his “FULL POWER” and we will have an extended fight between him and Almighty Yhwach that will be different from the manga. Ending episode 1 in Ichibei dying and Yhwach saying he would die 3 steps before the line.
Twisted_Little_Raven
She/Her- 3,566
- 1,919
Aa sigurd said it was only showing who was alive according to their pact only 3 needs to be sacrificed to break the seal. As far as ichibei not shaking everything he probably doesn't need to if he controls everything black in the universe.
Thinking on it I would be more scared of someone that controls everything black than someone that can shake 3 realma
- 3,346
- 1,911
racist ichibe
Twisted_Little_Raven
She/Her- 3,566
- 1,919
My favorite quote is "just like a black you will"
- 1,808
- 1,316
It’s not like every time the feat need to be replicated, it was to shown how strong they can be, ichibei could also learn to control his power overall
I doubt now Kubo will show the world shaking every time ichigo or zaraki go bankai
- 3,235
- 1,973
Just allows us to upscale them like Boruto does.
- 11,536
- 3,092
The episode tittle card literally says her “reaitsu” was what shocked the worlds. Black or not has nothing to do with reiatsu. I wouldn’t be scared of someone controlling “black” at most he will make my hair white and I would feel even cooler.
- 11,536
- 3,092
You would think they would back up their foreshadow by showing the “quake” even harder going by the rules in universe.
- 11,536
- 3,092
Senjumaru’s feat is approximately 720 megatons.
Earthquake magnitude is a logarithmic scale, so a magnitude 3 earthquake releases about 32 times less energy than a magnitude 4 and about 1,000 times less than a magnitude 5.
Earthquakes naturally dissipate energy as seismic waves travel through the earth, so an earthquake large enough to be felt worldwide would need to start with immense energy at its epicenter.
The shaking felt at any location depends on its distance from the epicenter, the local geology, and soil conditions. A magnitude 3 shake would be light/weak.
Modeling energy transmission through the entire earth is complex. But as a very rough illustration, a 5 megaton TNT detonation (large nuclear bomb) releases about the same energy as a magnitude 6 earthquake. So a worldwide light shake might require significantly more energy, though the TNT equivalent would be highly speculative.
In reality, no artificial explosion on or below earth's surface could actually generate a smooth worldwide earthquake. The released energy would follow existing fault lines and dissipate irregularly.
It's very difficult to provide an accurate estimate of the energy in joules required for a hypothetical worldwide light earthquake shake, as there are many complex factors involved. However, we can make some rough assumptions to get in the ballpark:
Let's assume a magnitude 3 earthquake, which has around 1% of the energy of a magnitude 5 quake.
A magnitude 5 earthquake releases around 1.8 x 10^15 joules of energy (equivalent to about 4 megatons of TNT).
If we assume the energy dissipates uniformly through the earth's crust and upper mantle, the surface area of the earth is around 5.1 x 10^14 m2.
So very roughly, to generate a light shake across that entire area, the energy required would be on the order of 1.8 x 10^15 joules x 100 (to scale up to a mag 3) / 5.1 x 10^14 m2 = around 35,000 joules per m2 across the earth's surface.
Multiplied out over the earth's surface area, that equates to very roughly around 2 x 10^20 joules needed in total energy release to generate a light worldwide shake.
This is a very rough "back of the envelope" estimate that grossly simplifies real seismic wave propagation. But it gives us an extremely high baseline number in the 10^20 joule range for the minimum energy required. The actual number could be orders of magnitude higher when accounting for dissipation through the earth. But this at least gives us an idea of the immense energy involved for a worldwide effect.
1) Earthquake felt in both the skies and earth:
It's not physically possible for seismic waves from an earthquake to propagate through the atmosphere. The shaking feeling in the "skies" would have to be explained by some other phenomenon.
If we speculate some massive atmospheric disturbance in addition to the seismic waves through the earth, it would require significantly more energy. As a very rough estimate, likely on the order of 10x higher, so around 2 x 10^21 joules.
2) Earthquake felt across 3 planet Earths:
The surface area of 3 planet Earths would be about 3 times larger, at around 1.5 x 10^15 m2.
Using the same rough assumptions as before, the total energy required for a light shake would scale proportionally.
So for 3 Earths, very approximately 10^20 joules x 3 = 3 x 10^20 joules.
These are extremely rough estimates meant to illustrate general scales and should not be taken as accurate calculations. The actual energies could be orders of magnitude different in reality.
Oops, made a mistake, my previous estimate for the 3 Earth scenario was off. Let me re-work that calculation:
For a light worldwide earthquake on 1 Earth, we estimated very roughly 10^20 joules
10^20 joules is approximately 240 megatons of TNT energy
For 3 Earths, the total surface area is about 3 times greater
So as you pointed out, the total energy would be roughly:
10^20 joules x 3 = 3 x 10^20 joules
Converting this to megatons of TNT:
3 x 10^20 joules / (4.184 x 10^15 joules per megaton) = 720 megatons of TNT
So the very rough estimate for a light worldwide earthquake felt across the surface of 3 planet Earths would be around 720 megatons of TNT energy.
Earthquake magnitude is a logarithmic scale, so a magnitude 3 earthquake releases about 32 times less energy than a magnitude 4 and about 1,000 times less than a magnitude 5.
Earthquakes naturally dissipate energy as seismic waves travel through the earth, so an earthquake large enough to be felt worldwide would need to start with immense energy at its epicenter.
The shaking felt at any location depends on its distance from the epicenter, the local geology, and soil conditions. A magnitude 3 shake would be light/weak.
Modeling energy transmission through the entire earth is complex. But as a very rough illustration, a 5 megaton TNT detonation (large nuclear bomb) releases about the same energy as a magnitude 6 earthquake. So a worldwide light shake might require significantly more energy, though the TNT equivalent would be highly speculative.
In reality, no artificial explosion on or below earth's surface could actually generate a smooth worldwide earthquake. The released energy would follow existing fault lines and dissipate irregularly.
It's very difficult to provide an accurate estimate of the energy in joules required for a hypothetical worldwide light earthquake shake, as there are many complex factors involved. However, we can make some rough assumptions to get in the ballpark:
Let's assume a magnitude 3 earthquake, which has around 1% of the energy of a magnitude 5 quake.
A magnitude 5 earthquake releases around 1.8 x 10^15 joules of energy (equivalent to about 4 megatons of TNT).
If we assume the energy dissipates uniformly through the earth's crust and upper mantle, the surface area of the earth is around 5.1 x 10^14 m2.
So very roughly, to generate a light shake across that entire area, the energy required would be on the order of 1.8 x 10^15 joules x 100 (to scale up to a mag 3) / 5.1 x 10^14 m2 = around 35,000 joules per m2 across the earth's surface.
Multiplied out over the earth's surface area, that equates to very roughly around 2 x 10^20 joules needed in total energy release to generate a light worldwide shake.
This is a very rough "back of the envelope" estimate that grossly simplifies real seismic wave propagation. But it gives us an extremely high baseline number in the 10^20 joule range for the minimum energy required. The actual number could be orders of magnitude higher when accounting for dissipation through the earth. But this at least gives us an idea of the immense energy involved for a worldwide effect.
1) Earthquake felt in both the skies and earth:
It's not physically possible for seismic waves from an earthquake to propagate through the atmosphere. The shaking feeling in the "skies" would have to be explained by some other phenomenon.
If we speculate some massive atmospheric disturbance in addition to the seismic waves through the earth, it would require significantly more energy. As a very rough estimate, likely on the order of 10x higher, so around 2 x 10^21 joules.
2) Earthquake felt across 3 planet Earths:
The surface area of 3 planet Earths would be about 3 times larger, at around 1.5 x 10^15 m2.
Using the same rough assumptions as before, the total energy required for a light shake would scale proportionally.
So for 3 Earths, very approximately 10^20 joules x 3 = 3 x 10^20 joules.
These are extremely rough estimates meant to illustrate general scales and should not be taken as accurate calculations. The actual energies could be orders of magnitude different in reality.
Oops, made a mistake, my previous estimate for the 3 Earth scenario was off. Let me re-work that calculation:
For a light worldwide earthquake on 1 Earth, we estimated very roughly 10^20 joules
10^20 joules is approximately 240 megatons of TNT energy
For 3 Earths, the total surface area is about 3 times greater
So as you pointed out, the total energy would be roughly:
10^20 joules x 3 = 3 x 10^20 joules
Converting this to megatons of TNT:
3 x 10^20 joules / (4.184 x 10^15 joules per megaton) = 720 megatons of TNT
So the very rough estimate for a light worldwide earthquake felt across the surface of 3 planet Earths would be around 720 megatons of TNT energy.
Last edited:
- 11,549
- 8,308
Apple what the hell are you talking about
Twisted_Little_Raven
She/Her- 3,566
- 1,919
Her reiatsu threatens everything she a better aizen than aizen
- 4,477
- 5,096
You think FP Senjumaru is beating the Cleaner?
And if so as easy as Rockstar Aizen did?
And if so as easy as Rockstar Aizen did?
Twisted_Little_Raven
She/Her- 3,566
- 1,919
Cleaner fodder
Malekith
He/Him- 881
- 667
Solos One Piece
- 2,954
- 1,440
Yhwach didn't put her as a war threat lmao she fodder. Also yama might be stronger since yhwach was going to make him a war threat if not for his lack of blood lust. Needless to say they are probably relative in power
Also why didn't the SS just steal her bankai?
- 4,477
- 5,096
Wasn't the RG bar Ichibei dead though?
You referring to when Shunsui sensed her spirit energy in the last episode when she went all out?
- 18,872
- 27,548
Did you watch the episode? Also RG = Yhwach's Royal Guard, Squad 0 = S0.
Twisted_Little_Raven
She/Her- 3,566
- 1,919
War threat logic is faulty Ichibei is one for his wisdom, urahara is there for being smart able to counter stuff with his intelligence
- 4,477
- 5,096
1. Not the whole thing no, I was at work Friday and all weekend lol
2. I see RG I assumed Royal Guard as In Reio's tbf
Twisted_Little_Raven
She/Her- 3,566
- 1,919
I used to call squad 0 royal guards during manga days and I only referred to Yhwach's squad as elites r elite sternritter
- 4,477
- 5,096
- 18,872
- 27,548
Watch the episodes before asking questions
- 5,320
- 6,056
What is your opinion on cour 3 episode 12?Watch the episodes before asking questions
Twisted_Little_Raven
She/Her- 3,566
- 1,919
Goober momentWatch the episodes before asking questions
- 4,477
- 5,096
Watch the episodes before asking questions
I have terrible things I wanna say to you but I can sense Damage even while countries away watching this convo....
Maybe later on Discord
- 1,083
- 365
Proof Yhwach knew about the blood seal oath placed on S0 that prevents them from using their full power?
- 10,939
- 19,079
You and @Maitreya sound exactly alike.
You need to link up with your forgotten brother from another mother.
