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What makes you think that ?
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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You and him have the same interesting takes
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Nah. I just say what i believe is likely logical. I personally don't believe TYBW Ichigo and Aizen are anywhere near the power of Dangai amd Monster forms. Kenpachi is comparable to their current level. So Narita didn't create a massive powercreep in CFYOW as people say.
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1. Never
2. He stated he can use them since they were originally his but in character he tends to stick with the Almighty
3. ?
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Not suitable for use in battles.
Yhwach not used these abilities and we don't know how. I think it shouldn't affect Battles.
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I believe that was just him using the Almighty again.
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He does?
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Yeah reread the Seireitei fight, Yhwach out of nowhere starts talking about fortune like he’s Jugram
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Bruh the amount of times that damn sword breaks is to damn high.
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@Deceived3596 a challenger approaches
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So you want to go against what we know about the character and is stated by the narrator?
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Except there's no actual visual indication of him using the Balance, and when he broke Ichigo's Bankai the first time he used the Almighty to do it. I think it'd be a bit weird if he switched up from using the Almighty to using the Balance to do the same attempted action. (Never mind that the Balance hasn't shown the ability to do something like that before)
The "fortunate" comment from Yhwach could be completely unrelated to the Balance.
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It’s not weird, Ichigo came back with his Bankai restored from the Almighty snap, so Yhwach could’ve just decided he’d break it another way.
Although, we can agree to disagree, we both know each others stances of Yhwach and the other schrifts.
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Yeah, not interested in arguing it here.
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Goofy ass conversation.
The Balance isn't an indicator that Yhwach can't use other Schrifts when he's using the Almighty, it's because of a very specific relationship between Jugram and Yhwach that when Yhwach sleeps, he gains the Balance while Jugram gains the Almighty. Nothing about this proves that Yhwach can't use other Schrifts while using the Almighty, it just proves Yhwach gains the Balance when he sleeps while Jugram gains the Almighty.
If anyone thinks otherwise you're a goober.
The Balance isn't an indicator that Yhwach can't use other Schrifts when he's using the Almighty, it's because of a very specific relationship between Jugram and Yhwach that when Yhwach sleeps, he gains the Balance while Jugram gains the Almighty. Nothing about this proves that Yhwach can't use other Schrifts while using the Almighty, it just proves Yhwach gains the Balance when he sleeps while Jugram gains the Almighty.
If anyone thinks otherwise you're a goober.
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But that was Aizen not Ichigo.
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There doesn't seem to be much information on this subject. We have only one example.(Almighty-Balance)
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That's not relevant.
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Thanks for the reply anyway.
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Well, I haven't intention of talking on this topic.
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Cool beans
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Weaker or stronger?
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The amount of cognitive dissonance is amazing.
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Gingo = Dangai Ichigo with this logic they use.
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It could be argue for with enough bible text to it.
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I feel Like kubo retconned transcendent reiastu being a dimensional tier amp. Tho i still don't think kenpachi is around their level maybe in bankai he's around shikai ichigo level.
Going off tybw scaling. It pretty much goes kenpachi base=yamamoto shikai<<<shikai kenpachi=bankai yamamoto<<<ichibei]<<<Almighty yhwach base who one shot ichibei with telekinesis=to shikai ichigo who tanked his telekinesis. It's kinda hard find were bankai kenpachi scales.
True tho hikone almost reached godhood shattering the boundary of hollows and soul reapers
I find it odd how tokinada was making his own soul palace in the koygoku and Somehow hikone was going to somehow control the 3 realms from their
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Dimensional SP still exist though, Kirio even mentions it when feeding Renji and Ichigo that a whole other dimension should be dwelling in their bodies. (Chapter 521)
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So many wrong stuff lol:
1. no, they simply recognised him after saw him visually, they were legit not sensing his reiatsu. Anyway I already stated that concept is slowly use less by Kubo so not really a point I was proving and I agree anyway that part is weird, but Kubo also like to be vague when he write.
2. this is false, this seems like 2015 bleach, Unsmaked clearly stated that when a reiatsu is too HUGE/POWERFUL it can’t be sensed, not because of being hybrid, that’s the reason, this already negate your whole premise, and it is really explained well in deicide arc, meanwhile it’s true hybird can reach trascendence easily and its the key for the soul king, the not feeling anything this is due too much gap of reiastu. This should have been obvious when Aizen explain he can LOWER his reiastu to let the others such as gin, tatsuk etc… interfere and sense him.
3. zaraki completely overpowered gremmy in shikai which was stated to be the strongest at that point by novels too, So zaraki is also > sternitters, your point of Yama being > stern, it’s quite frankly not a point when zaraki didnt even need his bankai and had even the eyepatch on to scale already above all the stern at that time Lol.
Kubo set zaraki as war potential for a simple reason, only delusional people can think Yama Is stronger than zaraki during the TYBWA when CFYOW is just 6 month after (zaraki just ******* trained in his dojo with no major threat lol) literally show us base zaraki being even stronger than ichibei Who is > bankai Yama. As I said zaraki got stronger but thinking his base is >> his Bankai when even kubo used yachiru to hype it as being his maximum hidden power is just dumb and doesn’t make sense.
Zaraki always been stronger than Yamamoto, and that's narratively supported by being a war potential for just his strength, and the feats on both TYBWA and CFYOW are higher than Yama.
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this scaling doesn’t work in the head of the actual authors at all, base zaraki was able to cut Gerard giant arm when byakuya could not even scratch gerard‘s hand with senbozakura, the only times byakuya actually damage gerard is because Gerard body is frozen from the outside and inside.
He never damaged neither block a single attack from Gerard. And without that much feats and contradictory statements on CFYOW the only conclusion is that:
byakuya was never zaraki level.
and zaraki didn’t get million time stronger by swinging a sword in a dojo with some 11 company fodder shinigami.
shikai TYBWA zaraki > bankai Yamamoto by feats, statements and narrative.
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True Shikai with the Arabic drip >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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