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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

thats kinda what we already do.....

we only give the multipliers to those that show an increase in stats, not on hax

for example, unohana does not get the x5 cus her bankai is just hax
Nah, I mean the actual multipliers should be individual. Like Toshiro states his bankai has the least difference between shikai and bankai, so he'd be 5x, while characters like TB Ichigo, and Yamamoto would be 10x, rather than general 5x for all stat boosts.

But that would make everything regarding Bleach scaling even more annoying than it already is
 
clyde literally said that ichibei talked to yhwach like he knew him so that means they fought 1,000 years before and yama beat yhwach not ichibei:devilish::ROFLMAO:
 
also he used all the statements of ryujin jakka being the strongest zanpaktou to try and argue ( even though those statements don't apply to soul palace people)

Ryujin jakka >> ichimonji :devilish: :ROFLMAO:
 
Updated list now that I remember Aizen's existence:

Ichigo, Aizen, Ywhach, Jugram, Ichibei, Gerard, Gremmy, BanKen, maybe Adult Toshiro and Byakuya as well.
so basically i just think that yama scales above everyone there excluding the ones I already mentioned
 
so basically i just think that yama scales above everyone there excluding the ones I already mentioned
Jugram should scale above Gerard, being the successor of Ywhach, and the commander of the Sternritter, BanKen is the one who made Gerard get as big as he did by obliterating him, and Adult Toshiro is able to freeze pure energy, while Byakuya did a ton of damage to Gerard with Ikka Senjika. Toshiro and Byakuya are the 2 that I'd say are about even with Yama
 
Jugram should scale above Gerard, being the successor of Ywhach, and the commander of the Sternritter, BanKen is the one who made Gerard get as big as he did by obliterating him, and Adult Toshiro is able to freeze pure energy, while Byakuya did a ton of damage to Gerard with Ikka Senjika. Toshiro and Byakuya are the 2 that I'd say are about even with Yama
I don't really see why jugram should scale above gerard just by being the successor of big man juha, and the commander of the sterns also pretty sure lille leads the elites but don't quote me on that. byakuya took off the head of gerard who became stronger than banken and in Cfyow its stated that Yama(in shikai) is above an even stronger byakuya . To be clear the only gerard that probably scales over yama is his last form that got absorbed by yhwach's auschwalen and was stated to be on yhwach's level by byakuya himself and toshiro was in shock by how powerful he had gotten.
 
I don't really see why jugram should scale above gerard just by being the successor of big man juha, and the commander of the sterns also pretty sure lille leads the elites but don't quote me on that. byakuya took off the head of gerard who became stronger than banken and in Cfyow its stated that Yama(in shikai) is above an even stronger byakuya . To be clear the only gerard that probably scales over yama is his last form that got absorbed by yhwach's auschwalen and was stated to be on yhwach's level by byakuya himself and toshiro was in shock by how powerful he had gotten.
Hey where it's stated he was on yhwach level. I mean i re read Multiple times i couldn't find that.
 
Lol. Even Ōetsu states they got got data from thousands years ago from Yama vs yhwach fight.
Yh ichibei gets caught completely off-guard by the almighty's capabilities and yhwach has to go out of his way to explain it to him, ichibei having cosmic awareness so advanced that it creeps nimaya out as stated in CFYOW. Furthermore yama didn't notice anything different with yhwach's eyes like ichigo did even from a considerable distance away from him.
 
Yh ichibei gets caught completely off-guard by the almighty's capabilities and yhwach has to go out of his way to explain it to him, ichibei having cosmic awareness so advanced that it creeps nimaya out as stated in CFYOW. Furthermore yama didn't notice anything different with yhwach's eyes like ichigo did even from a considerable distance away from him.
Also people forget Yhwach was amped by so many Sterns during the war.
 
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