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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Obviously Aizen is only able to beat Shinigami and Hollows, because he only says he transcends them, so Tsukishima is clearly far stronger than Aizen.
EldemadeDityjon
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Someone should ask Kubo true Zangestu orginal powers. 
Everyone asking some unnecessary things in club 
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Everyone asking some unnecessary things in club .
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Yeah Since Klub Kubo will only stay for 1 year, it got extended but this will prob be the last Year.Someone should ask Kubo true Zangestu orginal powers.
EldemadeDityjon
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Kubo just have to say true Zangestu can shatter fate
. That will be enough. I will drop a CRT in wiki. Or True Zangestu can cut thru time as stated in Mugetsu panel. Either one is fine 
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Yeah, which is unfortunate. Feats like these have the potential for insane results.
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Wait there's statements and feats for Tsukishima really defeating Butterflyzen in another timeline?
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Tsukishima was beat by byakuya who is confirmed to be weaker than base aizenDatabook says he transcendents everything and you have not way of proving is talking about the canon timeline. And Tsukishima transcendents him because he came into existence after the statement was made.
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Ya know I hate to be that guy, but the CFYOW novels never confirm what version of Aizen, ever, all they call him is “Aizen”. So as far as we are concerned they could be referring to base Aizen, Muken Aizen, Butterflyzen, etc. However, there exists interview statements where Kubo states FKT Yama = TYBW Yama. So you can use that to debunk the Fullbring scale.
EldemadeDityjon
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Aura ~ Base Aizen by Urahara statement. So they are pretty much referring Toki being weaker than base Aizen. Toki relative to Byakuya by Shunsui statement. Pretty much Base Aizen stomps Byakuya.
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Nope, Urahara says Aura ~ Aizen in skill, very important distinction.
EldemadeDityjon
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Didn't said her techniques are on Aizen level.
Anyway where does kenpachi breaking border between human world and Garganta scales? SAFWy
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Actually it said that Aura’s skill with Fullbring abilities is equivalent to Aizen’s skill in Shinigami combat arts.
You can scale Kenny harming the borders to above Senna’s explosion considering her explosion didn’t harm the borders.
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You know i think that Feat is A big Outlier, if that is true wouldnt that Mean that Unohana is potentially dozens of time stronger than him accomplishing that Feat,and Yama even more so. And then Even More for God Tiers like Ichigo,aizen,Yhwach.
EldemadeDityjon
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Great
Arcker123
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No? Unohana is fodder to CFYOW kenny
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Safwy Kenny is what i am talking about
Arcker123
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Oh nvm thenSafwy Kenny is what i am talking about
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Not outlier if you buy sokyoku/kido cannon, Star level GRC, and cosmic Gremmy, in that case it’s rather consistent
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True But most people dont, the Star Level Grc isnt a great Argument to make,kido Canon and its Canonicity is Questionable,Cosmic Gremmy is ok, and Sokyoku is fine. If we used Safwy scaling Yama Unohana would be potentially Large Planet/Dwarf Star, God tiers around Star is probable.
EldemadeDityjon
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If you argue las noches has star it's possible.
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the kido canon is not "questionable canonicity" the movie IS canon
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didn't he say he was a bit weaker on the war arc (lost 1 arm), but not by that much/ to a degree where it would really matter?
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No, Shunsui said Yama didn’t get any weaker, and Kubo confirmed he stayed at the same strength.
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strange considering that losing an arm weakens people, like when grimmjow lost an arm and was weak so he was out of the espada
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He trained is the logical deduction to be made. Also, Hollow physiology is a bit different from Shinigami, Hollows are millions of souls combined, Shinigami are a single soul.
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I could also kill Tsukishima with a gun in the same way Byakuya got a lucky shot. He was a dead man walking. lol
EldemadeDityjon
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Immortal Hogyoku Aizen > Unohana > Kenpachi > Base Aizen (SAFWY he was worried to face Kenpachi without been fused with the Hogyoku)
Unohana was impressed with Ichigo having double reiatsu of a captain and that Ichigo was not able to face Gin but was able to sense Aizen's transcendent reiatsu. Poweer scaling is all over the place.
Unohana was impressed with Ichigo having double reiatsu of a captain and that Ichigo was not able to face Gin but was able to sense Aizen's transcendent reiatsu. Poweer scaling is all over the place.
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It will be so, one day. Until that day comes, I cope.
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Interesting hill to die on but respect
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That statement is ass because not all captains have a set power level.
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No, he got soft which was the major thing. Which is why Yhwach considered him weaker.
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He Never said he has exactly Double the reiatsu of a Captain. He said "Atleast" iirc
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not really talking bout that and more of his physical/energy power level
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Probably mistranslated given this is what the Viz Scan says. (Also that isn't TS Ichigo but Fullbring Shinigami Ichigo so that wouldn't even work for TS Ichigo in the first place)Could you use the top left Statement as another Argument for TS>mugetsu?
