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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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How does Ichigo outskill Zoro? He only cuts stuff and throws around energy blast.
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We will prob get more dialogue with Gremmy so that could help
,Databook would be amazing,since we lack one for Tybw.Really want to upgrade Gremmy since people think he is weak compared to many people bcs he “lost” to Kenny
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Wouldnt Gremmy scale to Kenpachi full power,since he said he could imagine Kenpachi power perfectly,he could imagine it in its entirety. But couldnt Imagine a body contain all of that power,makes sense since even Kenny’s body cant handle his own power.
Am i correct to assume that Gremmy=Cfyow Kenny, or am i stretching it?
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Gremmy got killed by Kenny’s full power, so he doesn’t fully scale to Kenny.
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But didnt Gremmy say that he can imagine his Power but cant imagine a body that is capable of containing said power.
So i wouldnt say Kenny power killed him, his own Imagination killed him bcs he tried to make a body containing all that power
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Gremmy can imagine his own death, he doesn’t scale to something that off rip kills him
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How can he imagine himself dying when he erased his own Image of Death?
What killed him is hiw own Imagination trying to imagine a body capable of Standing all his power
.Ngl this is pretty confusing hopefully the anime dialogue reveals more about this matter
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My man literally said that had he not cleared his mind he would’ve made his death a reality. His power is dangerous to himself.How can he imagine himself dying when he erased his own Image of Death?
What killed him is hiw own Imagination trying to imagine a body capable of Standing all his power
Ngl this is pretty confusing hopefully the anime dialogue reveals more about this matter
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Before he erased his Image of Death, he literally Cant imagine himself dying anymore, he literally says he doesnt have the risk of dying again.
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And he imagines a power that kills him later. Not up for debate
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He didnt Imagine himself dying, him dying was a byproduct of trying to imagine something that he couldnt.and bcs he couldnt imagine this is why he died.
He cant Imagine himself dying anymore is the point,doesnt mean he cant die.
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My bad for wording it poorly, my stance is he can be killed by his imagination. As seen when he gets killed by a power he imagines.
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Yes i agree he can be killed by his own imagination, but my point is that he cant imagine himself dying anymore.
So in essence if something goes wrong with his Imagination he could get killed,but he cant actively Imagine himself dying bcs that image doesnt exist anymore.
Idk if i can explain it better,this is how i view it.
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Yeah that’s fine, but the point is Gremmy can imagine power that scales above himself. That’s how he died, imagine a power greater than what he could handle.
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But where does that scale him, like said in the Scan he was able to Imagine Kenpachi power Perfectly and in its entirety, but what he coulnt imagine is and i quote: “The Fact that only Your body could stand your Power“
He has no problem imagining his power.
I am confused what he meant by what he couldnt imagine.
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Personally I scale 7 Gremmy to eyepatch ShiKen level because the 6 Gremmy suicide bomb did some good damage to eyepatch ShiKen. It means nothing if he can imagine CFYOW Kenny’s power if it kills him immediately.
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Hm yeah thats fine, i personally think its higher but i can see it from your pov.
Q: do you believe Gremmy is the SK brain?
A lot of things point to it, and if it so wouldnt he be a lot more powerful?
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I think it’s highkey implied to be the case, Gremmy was massively powerful, and his dead brain even fueled Hikone to become SK level.
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Pretty sure he only said Gerard being the Heart was a rumour.
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CFYOW hypothesizes that Gremmy is Reio’s brain.
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I mean it was also obvious by when Ikomikidomoe was eating SK fragments and that he went straight for Gremmy‘s Brain.
Also the fact that Gremmy doesnt exist and is essentially only a Brain,like Pernida and Mimihagi are Hands and Gerard is a Heart
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Why would sk have a dumb kid brain tho? And not really they just said hikone was made of sk fragments,1000 s of souls and a qunicy brain.
And gremmy didn't have powers till yhwach granted him his scrift
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Yeah Bleach barely outright states anything and leaves it to discussion. This makes everything problematic since people want direct quotes even though sometimes things are pretty obvious.
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That's not true, the whole schrift thing turned out to be innate in the people that have or had them. Yhwach just saw it as if it was written on their bodies or at least that's what I got from the Klub Kubo thing.
Also wasn't Gremmy isolated and hidden so he wouldn't grow too powerful, it seemed like if Yhwach let him evolve too much he would've been a problem for him.
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You clearly missed the part where I said "CFYOW hypothesizes that Gremmy was Reio's brain". Maybe he wasn't, maybe he was, that's why it's a hypothesis.
Also, if you think Gremmy is dumb, you don't understand truly how his ability works, nor do you understand the fight beyond the surface level of big unga bunga explosions.
Also, who said Reio and Gremmy are equally intelligent?
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Here read this Gremmy respect thread, don't really care too much for the more power scaling nitpicks with this guys points, but pay attention to how he describes the weakness of The Visionary. Man gets the narrative analysis of Gremmy's struggle down to a T. Gremmy ain't stupid, Kubo is just a great writer who writes realistic characters with understandable flaws and personality quirks.
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Funny enough, Kubo deadass has went on record to say, he has left shit vague intentionally because it is more interesting and encouraging of discussion to leave it up to the readers to interpret the story as they please. Unironically why he didn't touch on Reio's origins in the manga.
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The point is he ant have those powes prior to yhwach awakening it like all the other sterns. If he was sk's brain he would naturally have powers like the other fragments
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When gremmy's brain was put into hikone they said he behaved just like gremmy. So the brains personality is still gremmy regardless who has it
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And lastly we do not know for certain if Gremmy awakened his powers solely thanks to Yhwach or if it was a similar case as postulated with Gerard and I believe Lille and Pernida.
Similar tendencies is not the same as acting exactly alike...
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Itachi beats Yhwach
