Bakugo vs yang

[Spinoirr]

Both are large building level and vol 7/8 yang is being used (after she had a few weeks of training in atlas) also speed is = duh also they are fighting inside atlas academys training grounds

Yang:

Bakugo: 6

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[Maverick_Zero_X]

Based on his profile Bakugou will have the AP advantage initially (8.12 Tons), but wouldn't Yang just overpower him by becoming 8-B with her Semblance?

 

[Spinoirr]

That is unless bakugo brakes her aura

 

[WeeklyBattles]

An 8 ton attack wouldnt break her aura immediately

 

[Spinoirr]

Yeah I know

But multiple attacks from bakugo probably could. especially if it's a drawn-out fight

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah but this is current Yang, shes not dumb enough to take someone who she'd know basically immediately is stronger than herself head on

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Yang in this key only amps to 8-B VERY briefly since she tries not to rely on her power, and she does so when her aura is low from taking damage. While she will have the AP advantage, Bakugo can still avoid her with his Blast Rush Turbo and beat her down with constant ranged explosions.

If Yang’s Aura goes out, she is forever at a stat disadvantage, while Bakugo just constantly gets stronger as the fight continues as he sweats more. It’s almost guaranteed that he will outlast and out scale her in damage, especially since he’s starting with the advantage already.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

The question is if Yang can beat Bakugo before that point.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Bakugo doesnt really have that huge of an advantage seeing as this version of yang scales above oneshotting 4 tons

Also Yang beats Bakugo in the range game, hundreds of meters vs tens of meters

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Which 4 ton character was one shot by someone Yang scales to? I’m not caught up on RWBY scaling. And even then that just gets them even to each other at best.

The range for her gauntlets is irrelevant since Bakugo has far better attacks. He can spam explosions with his AP shot faster than she can punch, so he’ll just destroy any of her ranged attacks before they even reach him. She doesn’t have that luxury though, as his normal explosions can actually just reach her if he gets closer.

Cqc doesn’t go any better for Yang because all of Bakugo’s attacks are larger than her entire body twice over. He can even blind her with stun grenade, or blast her in the face while retreating at the same time.

 

[Spinoirr]

Also Yang has sticky bombs now that can one shot Grimm that can live hits from her

 

[Spinoirr]

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[Kingofwolves999]

If you beat something up a lot, then kill it, your last blow isn’t a one shot. Has she one shot other Grimm in that manner with those sticky bombs?

And are those Grimm even comparable to her? I recall them getting kinda stomped on by team RWBY. Just cause she didn’t one shot them doesn’t mean they’re just as strong as her.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes, she has. Her sticky bombs also oneshot Vine who is equal to her in power.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

They didn’t one shot him, Yang proceeded to break his aura by throwing him at the ground. She also used what seems to be 9 sticky bombs at the exact same time, which isn’t a one shot. To further that point, 2 of those same bombs failed to one shot Elm, who is also supposed to be comparable to Yang. Even more than that, Aura in RWBY isn’t the exact same for everyone, so can you prove that Vine had the exact same amount of Aura as everyone else? Skill doesn’t denote how strong a person’s aura shield is.

 

[Spinoirr]

Also her sticky bombs blew up a mammoth Grimm that elm clashed with

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Heck, even further, Vine was using his semblance a lot that fight, so his aura was growing weaker. So she didn’t even hit his aura when it was at full strength.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Also her sticky bombs blew up a mammoth Grimm that elm clashed with

Again, she used several sticky bombs. Needing to use multiples of an attack isn’t a one shot, nor can you prove that that Elephant Grimm was comparable to either Elm or Yang. Elm stopped it like it was nothing, then proceeded to use her rockets to one shot more of them.

 

[Spinoirr]

True but the sticky bombs are useful if she uses them smart like she does in character

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Justout of curiosity are Bakugo's explosions solid? Because i dont see how he would be able to counter Yang's energy shots with explosions when her shots have dmonstrated the ability to go through explosions

 

[Kingofwolves999]

What exactly do you mean by solid? Because I suppose you could say his AP shots are since they’re condensed in order to contain the force into a single point.

If you’re asking if Yang can just shoot her shots through his explosions, than probably not since his explosions would be directly opposing the force of her shots.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Is the sticky bomb argument agreed upon? I feel I’ve presented enough logical counter points against it being a one shot.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Her shots are not tangible so i dont see how

No, theyre still much stronger than her normal attacks

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also im confusd, if Bakugo's power grows as he fights, why is his base state scaled to an explosion he performed while near his self-stated max power?

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Her shots have force though, correct? We’ve seen even in the later volumes that they do things that obey common laws of physics such as curve due to air. And by that description of “not tangible”, why wouldn’t Bakugo’s explosions cancel them out since they’re nothing but walls of force against her projectiles?

How are her sticky bombs much stronger than her normal attacks? She constantly uses a prodigious amount of them in order to do damage, and against a character that is supposedly her equal, two of them were completely disregarded. Unless she manages to tag Bakugo with a lot of them at the same time, they aren’t any more dangerous than her other attacks.

“Grow Stronger”, is in reference to his actual AP amping abilities like his gauntlets and Howitzer impact that require more sweat. While his hands do sweat more and thus he can create bigger explosions, his attack potency always stays relatively the same. And I don’t recall Bakugo claiming that the feat he did vs Nine was his maximum power.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Essentially, I’d give this fight to Bakugo for 2 reasons that are further deciding factors than his Base AP, that being his AoE and his Hax. While Yang can dodge his ranged attacks, when he gets in close, he renders her cqc inadequate as he bombards her with explosions far larger than she is. Yang is a better fighter, but Bakugo doesn’t fight like anyone she’s fought, and will have a far easier time hitting her than a character with a weapon would.

Furthermore, Bakugo can blind Yang and get free attacks off at any time he wants. When you add on that he uses his mobility far more liberally than Yang does, and will gain access to stronger attacks the more he fights, I find that Yang’s only chance of winning is severely injuring him with her semblance up.

However, even then she isn’t strong enough to one shot him, and his pain tolerance makes him able to withstand immense injuries like broken bones and crushed ribs. So Yang would be out of her aura and Bakugo would still have all his advantages on top of his stronger attacks.

That at least is my current view of the fight.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

They dont no, they are purely raw kinetic energy

Here, which is actually close in size to this explosion also stated to be his max power

Another issue with Bakugo though, just because his explosions have a total yield of 8 tons does not mean Yang will be getting hit with 8 tons of energy even at point blank range. Doing some quick math comes out to Yang only getting hit directly with 9-B levels of energy and thats at point blank range

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I'll write up a counter to that but you may want to address my point about Bakugo's explosions beforehand

 

[Spinoirr]

That was Max power thanks to his equipment

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I can post my math if necessary but yeah double checking it even if he hits her at point blank range with his explosions he'd only be dealing 9-B levels of damage to her

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Then Bakugo’s explosions would be able to block them, since they are also force. Why would her kinetic energy not be opposed by his own?

That is not the explosion that was calced for Bakugo’s AP. That is his gauntlet blast. The explosion calced for Bakugo is from when he fights Nine near the end of the movie.

Bakugo is able to hurt 8% Deku with his explosions, with Deku also being High 8-C+. As I said, the size of his explosions do not determine their AP. He can harm opponents comparable to him with smaller explosions. So calculating how much Force Yang would take is pointless, as that is not how his attacks in his verse work.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The fight i linked is the one against Nine.

If the size of his explosions dont detrmine their AP then why is the calc that puts him at High 8-C based on the size of one of his explosions...?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

>Large Building level+ with 8% (Capable of hurting Nine, who survived an explosion nearly a hundred meters in size)

>Nine blocked the explosions with a forcefield and didnt tank it directly

...?

 

[Kingofwolves999]

That is not Nine lol, that is Mummy, a henchmen/friend of Nine.

That explosion broke Nine’s shield, he didn’t block any of it. Nine was heavily weakened at that point in time, so he wasn’t able to block it.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Bakugo FRA

 

[WeeklyBattles]

That is not Nine lol, that is Mummy, a henchmen/friend of Nine.

That explosion broke Nine’s shield, he didn’t block any of it. Nine was heavily weakened at that point in time, so he wasn’t able to block it.

The guy making the barrier is not Nine?

 

[Spinoirr]

Also bakugo broke a weakened nines sheild

So that's why bakugo isn't city block level+ like izuku at 20%

 

[Kingofwolves999]

The guy making the barrier is not Nine?

Ah, your first link was messed up for me and took me to the exact same video as the second link.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Essentially, I’d give this fight to Bakugo for 2 reasons that are further deciding factors than his Base AP, that being his AoE and his Hax. While Yang can dodge his ranged attacks, when he gets in close, he renders her cqc inadequate as he bombards her with explosions far larger than she is. Yang is a better fighter, but Bakugo doesn’t fight like anyone she’s fought, and will have a far easier time hitting her than a character with a weapon would.

Bakugo fights identically to how she fought in Volumes 1-3, she would know exactly how to deal with him. And Yang doesnt have a weapon, she has her fists and her explosions, thats it.

Furthermore, Bakugo can blind Yang and get free attacks off at any time he wants. When you add on that he uses his mobility far more liberally than Yang does, and will gain access to stronger attacks the more he fights, I find that Yang’s only chance of winning is severely injuring him with her semblance up.

Implying this version of Yang would willingly face-tank an explosion (She wouldnt). This version of Yang also uses her mobility far more than ive ever seen Bakugo use it.

However, even then she isn’t strong enough to one shot him, and his pain tolerance makes him able to withstand immense injuries like broken bones and crushed ribs. So Yang would be out of her aura and Bakugo would still have all his advantages on top of his stronger attacks.

Seeing as she oneshots people who scale above 16 tons i dont see how she wouldnt oneshot him

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ah, your first link was messed up for me and took me to the exact same video as the second link.

Huh, weird, but yeah do you see where im coming from? His explosions before that one are all notably smaller and were able to be blocked by Nine's barriers