Bakugo vs yang

[WeeklyBattles]

He doesn’t seem to have much of a higher intelligence and the only notable skill I can think that’d actually give him an edge would be Stun Grenade and couldn’t Yang just use her aura to enhance her shots to increase close that gap

Yang cant use her aura that way

 

[Anarchy219]

Yang cant use her aura that way

Why couldn’t she Coco does it I don’t see any reason for her not being able to do the same considering her fighting style is based some much on her aura.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

When comparing just AP you'd be right, however given your extnsive reasoning as to why Bakugo is superior to her in every plausable way it becomes a stomp, unless youd like to take back your argument

I do not now nor have i ever nor would i ever stoop so low as to base anything on this wiki off of opinion.

And yes, that is what constitutes as a stomp on this site. when one person is vastly superior to the other in every conceivable way that is the definition of a stomp.

She cant, she doesnt, she doesnt, shes not, and it woulnt matter with his AoE

Because Bakugo was upgraded and now stomps whereas when this thread was made he didnt. Thats the entire reason this conversation is happening in the first place.

Except sh doesnt as you yourself stated that Bakugo can easily counter her range with his own on top of her having only a few shots before it runs out.

he want upgraded, so nothing changed. Only his weaker key was changed, what are you talking about?

So because he has options that can counter her own, it’s a stomp? That’s ridiculous, otherwise most fights on the wiki should be removed for skill stomp. He is not vastly superior, he’s just smarter and has abilities Yang doesn’t. Calling that vastly superior is ridiculous.

TL;DR was fair before, is a stomp now. Please dont make this harder than it has to be and just let it be closed.

No? It is still fair. NOTHING has changed. Bakugo was not upgraded. Yang has not been downgraded. I argued against you solely with Bakugo’s intelligence and versatility, and none of those arguments have changed.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Why couldn’t she Coco does it I don’t see any reason for her not being able to do the same considering her fighting style is based some much on her aura.

Because thats coco's semblance

 

[Spinoirr]

Also izuku can fight bakugo in cannon and they have like = attack power basically

 

[Kingofwolves999]

So Yang is allowed to have wins against people like Bane, Ed and Leone, but when it comes to Bakugo being able to beat her with his versatility, suddenly it’s a stomp? Why isn’t her match with Adam a stomp? Why aren’t most matches stomps if the criteria for being a stomp is “being able to counter your opponent’s tactics mid fight”?

Bakugo’s win conditions are literally him playing around Yang having an early lead with better cqc and a shield that makes her not take damage, only feel pain. He has to beat her TWICE, all while she has a move up her sleeve that is 4x his durability if it hits. Bakugo being able to win here is attributed SOLELY to his intelligence when he sees how people fight, calling it a stomp is disingenuous to an absurd degree.

 

[Spinoirr]

Exactly also we need one more vote for this to have grace

 

[WeeklyBattles]

he want upgraded, so nothing changed. Only his weaker key was changed, what are you talking about?

So because he has options that can counter her own, it’s a stomp? That’s ridiculous, otherwise most fights on the wiki should be removed for skill stomp. He is not vastly superior, he’s just smarter and has abilities Yang doesn’t. Calling that vastly superior is ridiculous.

Yes, that makes it a stomp. You are aware that skill stomps are very much a thing here right? Like its extremely common for that to happen and they are in fact removed as a result.

He has higher AP and durability, higher versatility, better ranged options, better AoE attacks, more skill, more stamina, yes he is vastly superior in every way.

No? It is still fair. NOTHING has changed. Bakugo was not upgraded. Yang has not been downgraded. I argued against you solely with Bakugo’s intelligence and versatility, and none of those arguments have changed.

It is not fair, as i have already explained.

So Yang is allowed to have wins against people like Bane, Ed and Leone, but when it comes to Bakugo being able to beat her with his versatility, suddenly it’s a stomp? Why isn’t her match with Adam a stomp? Why aren’t most matches stomps if the criteria for being a stomp is “being able to counter your opponent’s tactics mid fight”?

Ed's match was supposed to be removed but what is wrong with Bane and Leone's matches? And yes, when said versatility completely nunllifies anything Yang can possibly do to him it makes it a stomp.

I honestly dont even know why Yang vs Adam was even done tbh. And they are, thats why so many matches get removed.

Bakugo’s win conditions are literally him playing around Yang having an early lead with better cqc and a shield that makes her not take damage, only feel pain. He has to beat her TWICE, all while she has a move up he sleeve that is 4x his durability if it hits. Bakugo being able to win here is attributed SOLELY to his intelligence when he sees how people fight, calling it a stomp is disingenuous to an absurd degree.

Yes and that makes it a stomp. Yang doesnt have better cqc and her shield would be taken down by a few hits from Bakugo's attacks.

And no, she doesnt have any 4x anything in this match.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Somehow King being unaware that Yang cant use 4x stuff here and not knowing that skill stomps are absolutely a thing is rather fitting

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Going by what the show has shown us, Yang's aura would be completely depleted after taking 4-5 hits from Bakugo's 8-ton explosions

 

[WeeklyBattles]

So to summarize:

Bakugo:
*Higher AP and Durability
*Higher Stamina
*Better and more versatile range and AoE options that does not run out
*Smarter and more skilled

Yang:
*Higher range with a limited number of shots that get nullified by Bakugo's explosions
*Aura protection that gets shattered in 4-5 hits
*Can match Bakugo's power for a single punch with her Semblance

So yes, this is a textbook stomp. Nothing Yang can do will ever allow her to come close to Bakugo to fight him, he nulls her range until she runs out of shots, and his explosions guarantee that she will never be able to land a semblance attack on him.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Yes, that makes it a stomp. You are aware that skill stomps are very much a thing here right? Like its extremely common for that to happen and they are in fact removed as a result.

He has higher AP and durability, higher versatility, better ranged options, better AoE attacks, more skill, more stamina, yes he is vastly superior in every way.

It is not fair, as i have already explained.

Ed's match was supposed to be removed but what is wrong with Bane and Leone's matches? And yes, when said versatility completely nunllifies anything Yang can possibly do to him it makes it a stomp.

I honestly dont even know why Yang vs Adam was even done tbh. And they are, thats why so many matches get removed.

Yes and that makes it a stomp.

And no, she doesnt have any 4x anything in this match.

Skill stomp via not doing the same thing over and over again until he loses? All he’s doing is adapting to her fighting style and changing his own, how is that a skill stomp?

He does not have higher AP, this is a lie. Higher versatility is something that hundreds of matches on this wiki are VALID for, not invalid. And his versatility is literally “I can blind her and I make big boom.” You’re acting like he’s one shotting her across space and time or something.

This match is completely fair, you just don’t want it to be for some reason.

Why did Yang win vs Bane and Leone. Answer that question, and then tell me why those matches aren’t stomps but this one is. Or tell me why Joseph Joestar wins in matches due to his intelligence but Bakugo can’t do the same.

Somehow King being unaware that Yang cant use 4x stuff here and not knowing that skill stomps are absolutely a thing is rather fitting

Does she not have her semblance which amps her entire body to 4x? I am aware of skill stomps, are you committing ad hominem now because I don’t agree with you? Insulting my character to make your stance look better? Really now?

Going by what the show has shown us, Yang's aura would be completely depleted after taking 4-5 hits from Bakugo's 8-ton explosions

She is over 4 tons, this is literally impossible unless her aura has been shown to crack after 4-5 hits from characters comparable to her, and then that’s not a Bakugo problem.

So to summarize:

Bakugo:
*Higher AP and Durability
*Higher Stamina
*Better and more versatile range and AoE options that does not run out
*Smarter and more skilled

Yang:
*Higher range with a limited number of shots that get nullified by Bakugo's explosions
*Aura protection that gets shattered in 4-5 hits
*Can match Bakugo's power for a single punch with her Semblance

So yes, this is a textbook stomp. Nothing Yang can do will ever allow her to come close to Bakugo to fight him, he nulls her range until she runs out of shots, and his explosions guarantee that she will never be able to land a semblance attack on him.

He doesn’t have higher AP, her aura lasts more than 4-5 hits, and every other reason is textbook reasons for him to just win not stomp.

She can literally rocket herself forward with her own gauntlets, what do you mean she can’t get close?

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Bakugo has to consciously adapt to every single attack Yang throws at him for this entire fight, and if he makes too many mistakes he loses. You’re telling me a match where he has to constantly be on guard with defending himself from her projectiles, getting around her rocketing at him, get through her aura, not being able to stay in cqc and potentially being crippled if she lands a hit with her semblance is NOT balanced, just because he’s smart enough to eventually handle most of it?

This Bakugo wank is unwarranted, you’re acting like he’s Batman or something just cause he has the ability to win here.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Skill stomp via not doing the same thing over and over again until he loses? All he’s doing is adapting to her fighting style and changing his own, how is that a skill stomp?

Because he is inherrently more skilled than her from the get-go, they use identical fighting styles but he is vastly more skilled with it.

He does not have higher AP, this is a lie. Higher versatility is something that hundreds of matches on this wiki are VALID for, not invalid. And his versatility is literally “I can blind her and I make big boom.” You’re acting like he’s one shotting her across space and time or something.

He does have higher AP. He is >8 tons, Yang is >4 tons

Versatility stomps do happen you know, especially when said versatility nulls everything the opponent can do.

Why did Yang win vs Bane and Leone. Answer that question, and then tell me why those matches aren’t stomps but this one is. Or tell me why Joseph Joestar wins in matches due to his intelligence but Bakugo can’t do the same.

Because of her semblance.Honestly Yang vs Bane is a stomp but Yang vs Leone is considered fair due to the workarounds to Yang's semblance.

Dude youre asking the wrong guy to give any sort of support for Joseph's matches being considered fair, i genuinely think that almost all the wins on his profile are stomps.

Does she not have her semblance which amps her entire body to 4x? I am aware of skill stomps, are you committing ad hominem now because I don’t agree with you? Insulting my character to make your stance look better? Really now?

No because thats not how her semblance works, it doesnt amp her to 4x against every opponent, it just doubles her own power. Like i said before, the only reason she was able to reach 8-B was because she was hit by an 8-B attack, which nearly killed her might i add, and it only lasts for enough time to land a single punch.

She is over 4 tons, this is literally impossible unless her aura has been shown to crack after 4-5 hits from characters comparable to her, and then that’s not a Bakugo problem.

It has.

He doesn’t have higher AP, her aura lasts more than 4-5 hits, and every other reason is textbook reasons for him to just win not stomp.

She can literally rocket herself forward with her own gauntlets, what do you mean she can’t get close?

He does, he is 8 Tons without his gauntlets meaning he is >8 tons with them here vs Yang being a numerically unknown level above 4 tons. Against an opponent with higher AP it does not last as long, this is literally listed as a major weakness on her profile and the verse page. Every other rason i listed is just icing on the cake of this being a stomp.

Getting close means getting bombarded with 8 ton explosions which will shatter her aura in seconds.

Bakugo has to consciously adapt to every single attack Yang throws at him for this entire fight, and if he makes too many mistakes he loses. You’re telling me a match where he has to constantly be on guard with defending himself from her projectiles, getting around her rocketing at him, get through her aura, not being able to stay in cqc and potentially being crippled if she lands a hit with her semblance is NOT balanced, just because he’s smart enough to eventually handle most of it?

Yes, that is exactly what i am saying. Everything you just listed can be countered by his explosions, every single one of them. Also youre acting like she is a sniper with her projectiles when 8 times out of 10 she misses her shots, which as i mention again she only has a limited amount of and without then she cannot rocket herself at him. And no, she wouldnt cripple him with her semblance as it would just barely be able to match him in power.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Because he is inherrently more skilled than her from the get-go, they use identical fighting styles but he is vastly more skilled with it.

He does have higher AP. He is >8 tons, Yang is >4 tons

Versatility stomps do happen you know, especially when said versatility nulls everything the opponent can do.

Because of her semblance.Honestly Yang vs Bane is a stomp but Yang vs Leone is considered fair due to the workarounds to Yang's semblance.

Dude youre asking the wrong guy to give any sort of support for Joseph's matches being considered fair, i genuinely think that almost all the wins on his profile are stomps.

No because thats not how her semblance works, it doesnt amp her to 4x against every opponent, it just doubles her own power. Like i said before, the only reason she was able to reach 8-B was because she was hit by an 8-B attack, which nearly killed her might i add, and it only lasts for enough time to land a single punch.

It has.

He does, he is 8 Tons without his gauntlets meaning he is >8 tons with them here vs Yang being a numerically unknown level above 4 tons. Against an opponent with higher AP it does not last as long, this is literally listed as a major weakness on her profile and the verse page. Every other rason i listed is just icing on the cake of this being a stomp.

Getting close means getting bombarded with 8 ton explosions which will shatter her aura in seconds.

Yes, that is exactly what i am saying. Everything you just listed can be countered by his explosions, every single one of them. Also youre acting like she is a sniper with her projectiles when 8 times out of 10 she misses her shots, which as i mention again she only has a limited amount of and without then she cannot rocket herself at him. And no, she wouldnt cripple him with her semblance as it would just barely be able to match him in power.

I’m not about to argue with you if the only reason you’re arguing stomp is because of your personal opinion of intelligence in vs battles.

So in favor of debating you on you’re own opinion, I’ll agree with you instead. Bakugo absolutely stomps Yang into the dirt with no difficulty, so this match isn’t feasible to be put on their profiles due to how obvious the winner is.

But just know that if you come back with 8-A Yang and try to claim the same things you claimed here, the things that you are right now saying are not enough for Yang to win, I will call you out for it.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Link that 8-A rwby calc of Ruby pushing the mech btw, I want to see it.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Link that 8-A rwby calc of Ruby pushing the mech btw, I want to see it.

RWBY:Big Robot Falls

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I’m not about to argue with you if the only reason you’re arguing stomp is because of your personal opinion of intelligence in vs battles.

1. Not opinion, Bakugo is factually smarter and more skilled

2. Its not solely intlligence, its intlligence coupled with higher AP and durability and abilities that hard counter Yang's entire skillset

So in favor of debating you on you’re own opinion, I’ll agree with you instead. Bakugo absolutely stomps Yang into the dirt with no difficulty, so this match isn’t feasible to be put on their profiles due to how obvious the winner is.

Exactly, thank you. While we're on the topic, did you want to request bane and ed's matchs b removed or should i?

 

[Kingofwolves999]

1. Not opinion, Bakugo is factually smarter and more skilled

2. Its not solely intlligence, its intlligence coupled with higher AP and durability and abilities that hard counter Yang's entire skillset

Exactly, thank you. While we're on the topic, did you want to request bane and ed's matchs b removed or should i?

Being smarter and more skilled isn’t grounds for something to be a stomp, especially since she has better actual fighting style skill than him. Advantages exist for a reason.

His stat advantage is non existent if the logic is she can one shot 4 ton characters. She’s less than 2x him in strength, she’s perfectly capable of hurting him, and he can’t spam his gauntlets. Stun Grenade doesn’t make this a stomp anymore than someone with a belt of flash grenades does.

You can get them removed, I personally don’t care, as it’s your reasoning that they should be invalid. I think this and all the other matches are perfectly fine by wiki standards, you’re the one going against the grain.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

I'll just leave here that, as one of the common examples of a Decisive, non-stomp match;

• Both characters are evenly matched and have regenerative and defensive abilities that prevent the other from killing them, but one character has moves that allow for them to gain the upper hand.

So having more moves and being smart enough to use them does not inherently lead to a stomp. Food for thought.

But do as you wish.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I'll just leave here that, as one of the common examples of a Decisive, non-stomp match;

• Both characters are evenly matched and have regenerative and defensive abilities that prevent the other from killing them, but one character has moves that allow for them to gain the upper hand.

So having more moves and being smart enough to use them does not inherently lead to a stomp. Food for thought.

But do as you wish.

Yeah but thats the thing, its not evenly matched, Bakugo's is stronger, more versatile, unlimited, and completely nullifies yang's. Its not 'gaining the upper hand' its 'making it so one person can do nothing to fight back'

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Yeah but thats the thing, its not evenly matched, Bakugo's is stronger, more versatile, unlimited, and completely nullifies yang's

He isn't stronger and his blasts aren't unlimited, he just has higher stamina too.

As I said, do as you wish. Just don't expect me to ignore your arguments here should this topic arise again.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He isn't stronger and his blasts aren't unlimited, he just has higher stamina too.

As I said, do as you wish. Just don't expect me to ignore your arguments here should this topic arise again.

King

Bakugo is >8 tons

Yang is >4 tons

yes

he is stronger

get this through your thick skull

 

[WeeklyBattles]

You keep cherrypicking that this is being decided solely on intelligence when it isnt, its intelligence and a myriad of other factors and you know it. And no actually she doesnt, he has a superior fighting style as well.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

King

Bakugo is >8 tons

Yang is >4 tons

yes

he is stronger

get this through your thick skull

Weekly. Bakugo is not >8 tons. He has one move that is >8 tons by an unknown amount. So yang being >4 tons via the one shot range means she's probably comparable to him.

Stop getting angry because I'm debating you on something you aren't understanding.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

You keep cherrypicking that this is being decided solely on intelligence when it isnt, its intelligence and a myriad of other factors and you know it. And no actually she doesnt, he has a superior fighting style as well.

Intelligence and versatility actually, which are the only two advantages he has. I'm not cherrypicking, that's it. That's what he wins based off of.

Yang has a better fighting style in conventional terms.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Intelligence, Versatility, AP, Durability, AoE, Stamina, a skillset that directly nullifies Yang's...really now?

She really doesnt

 

[Kingofwolves999]

I've already spoken my piece, and you're just ignoring my arguments at this point.

I'll let mods decide if you've contacted them and leave this be. Not my authority to close a thread.

 

[AKM sama]

I was told that this match is outdated/stomp and there are gonna be more revisions after which this will be remade. Should I close this thread in that case?

 

[Kingofwolves999]

I was told that this match is outdated/stomp and there are gonna be more revisions after which this will be remade. Should I close this thread in that case?

It isn't outdated as neither profile has changed, but Weekly's argument is that it is a stomp, yes.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The general agreement is that it is a stomp yes, the argument that it was fair was basd off of numerous misconceptions regarding the mechanics of Yang's powers

 

[Kingofwolves999]

incorrect, there is no general agreement. Only 2 people have given an opinion on it being a stomp, being Weekly and myself.

He believe it is a stomp, but not due to misconceptions on her powers. He believes, ver batim, that Bakugo stomps via being smarter and more versatile than her with an ap advantage.

I don't agree and no one else has either, but I settled because he is just dragging the thread out.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

King, please stop cherrypicking, especially when people can literally see the arguments. You know for a fact that its not just intelligence and versatility that makes this a stomp

 

[Kingofwolves999]

King, please stop cherrypicking, especially when people can literally see the arguments. You know for a fact that its not just intelligence and versatility that makes this a stomp

I've argued several times and disagree with your opinions that more than intelligence and versatility make it a stomp. You just ignore my arguments.

And no one has agreed that this is a stomp. Ask everyone else that participated in this thread and voted if they believe it is a stomp before deciding to invalidate all their votes.

I'm already settling because you're dragging this out, get more than 2 opinions.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

In fact, i'll do it right now.

@Insert_creative_name_here_12 @Crimson_Shadow101 @Maverick_Zero_X @Stupits @Bruhtelho @Anarchy2198

Yo, weekly says this fight is now a stomp in favor of Bakugo due to the arguments presented, rather than a decisive win. Ya'll agree or no? More than 2 opinions matter.