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Ayanokoji's questionable scaling

Dark_Soul20189

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Welcome back to a small debunk, or rather correction.

Verse - Classroom of the Elites
Profile - Ayanokoji

This should be a relatively quick one, but I have a problem with Ayanokoji scaling to this.
Durability: At least Street level+, possibly Wall Level (13,2 KJ, Possibly 49.3 KJ - Capable of tanking his own attacks, Capable of tanking Shiro's attacks and is capable of enduring the attacks of adults as a 4 year old
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Now you all may be wondering where the 49.3Kj comes from, as I did before getting noticed it comes from this calc, where Kounji jumps off a cliff. Now I won't question the calcs validity since that is not something I am that well knowledgeable in, but I will question how this feat Kounj doesi has any correlation to Ayanokoji's Durability scaling.

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  • The Feat being scaled is Anime Only
  • Ayanokoji has no reason to scale to Kounji's Calc

TLTR - The 49.3Kj gets removed from Ayanokoji's durability section

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Agree - @Damage3245,
Disagree -
Neutral -
 
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I'll wait for the verse supporters for further replies.

Peak, is this koji's downfall? After getting obligrated by anya in vs match.
 
Can I have a single person explain to me why and how Ayanokoji is comparable/upscales from kounji in Durability?
 
Thing is, it doesn't really matter how comparable they could be in a fight, the only way to determine if they are comparable in durability is if Ayakanokoji endured the same level of energy as Kuoenji, which he wouldn't do even if he jumped from the same place as Kouenji (due to the difference in mass, which would be even more significant when he was a kid), and no matter how much he could withstand punches from adults or Kouenji himself, because of the so great difference between their AP and Kouenji durability.
 
Expectro2000xxx said:
Thing is, it doesn't really matter how comparable they could be in a fight, the only way to determine if they are comparable in durability is if Ayakanokoji endured the same level of energy as Kuoenji, which he wouldn't do even if he jumped from the same place as Kouenji (due to the difference in mass, which would be even more significant when he was a kid), and no matter how much he could withstand punches from adults or Kouenji himself, because of the so great difference between their AP and Kouenji durability.
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I agree with this take.
 
Kouenji and Ayanokouji are narratively comparable to each other wth

They are both tied in strenght and Koji also mentioned on how he can give him a hard challenge as well

If you are basing this downgrade on the fact that Kouenji's profile doesn't have it, i will have you know that all profiles except Koji and the WR students (to an extent) are outdated as hell
 
XxZetsuxX said:
Kouenji and Ayanokouji are narratively comparable to each other wth

They are both tied in strenght and Koji also mentioned on how he can give him a hard challenge as well

If you are basing this downgrade on the fact that Kouenji's profile doesn't have it, i will have you know that all profiles except Koji and the WR students (to an extent) are outdated as hell
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Did you read it?

I am asking how Ayanokoji's durability can be scaled from a feat Kounji has? And even more questionable is how that is scaled to his kid key, and to make it worse, is that it is a "Possibly" rating...


As @Expectro2000xxx puts it best above,
Expectro2000xxx said:
Thing is, it doesn't really matter how comparable they could be in a fight, the only way to determine if they are comparable in durability is if Ayakanokoji endured the same level of energy as Kuoenji, which he wouldn't do even if he jumped from the same place as Kouenji (due to the difference in mass, which would be even more significant when he was a kid), and no matter how much he could withstand punches from adults or Kouenji himself, because of the so great difference between their AP and Kouenji durability.
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Dark_Soul20189 said:
Did you read it?

I am asking how Ayanokoji's durability can be scaled from a feat Kounji has?
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Because they are both comparable to each other? As Koji says Kouenji is the only one who can give him trouble

And Koji is the number 1 in his verse, i don't see why he wouldn't scale to the feat?
Dark_Soul20189 said:
And even more questionable is how that is scaled to his kid key, and to make it worse, is that it is a "Possibly" rating...
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It's accepted that his kid self is stronger than his current
 
XxZetsuxX said:
It's accepted that his kid self is stronger than his current
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That is his Prime, not kid key.

XxZetsuxX said:
Because they are both comparable to each other? As Koji says Kouenji is the only one who can give him trouble

And Koji is the number 1 in his verse, i don't see why he wouldn't scale to the feat?
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Soooo, What you are saying is that there is no actual evidence? Outside your own narrative understanding of the story that says, "Ayanokoji is the strongest in all aspects..."
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
That is his Prime, not kid key.
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No, Me and Reggor were literally the ones who made the CRT where kid Koji is stronger than his current key

Prime > Kid > Current

It's literally what currently accepted
Dark_Soul20189 said:
Soooo, What you are saying is that there is no actual evidence? Outside your own narrative understanding of the story that says, "Ayanokoji is the strongest in all aspects..."
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Koji is literally the strongest in his verse lol
 
I don't know why this calc is being used when there is no implication of koenji jumping off the cliff and surviving in LN. It's just anime only feat.

As for debate itself of Ayanokoji=Koenji in terms of durability, I am not sure about that. It's questionable I guess, but don't have a conclusion. Well we may get a clear answer when y3 starts as Ayanokoji vs Koenji confirmed to takes place.
 
Godsatoshi23 said:
I don't know why this calc is being used when there is no implication of koenji jumping off the cliff and surviving in LN. It's just anime only feat.

As for debate itself of Ayanokoji=Koenji in terms of durability, I am not sure about that. It's questionable I guess, but don't have a conclusion. Well we may get a clear answer when y3 starts as Ayanokoji vs Koenji confirmed to takes place.
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So I take it you agree with the downgrade?

Also, That is definitely interesting...
 
Tbh I dont quite agree, its very obvious Koji is almost always > or atleast =~ in everything compared to the verse narratively.

I could see it being removed from the kid key though.
 
Godsatoshi23 said:
As for debate itself of Ayanokoji=Koenji in terms of durability, I am not sure about that. It's questionable I guess, but don't have a conclusion. Well we may get a clear answer when y3 starts as Ayanokoji vs Koenji confirmed to takes place.
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The thing is, even if they fought out and Koji hurt Koenji, that would only make Koji AP scale to Koenji durability, because no matter how much Koenji ends up punching Koji the AP of his punches is far lower than his durability.
 
Expectro2000xxx said:
The thing is, even if they fought out and Koji hurt Koenji, that would only make Koji AP scale to Koenji durability, because no matter how much Koenji ends up punching Koji the AP of his punches is far lower than his durability.
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When I said Ayanokoji vs Koenji, I mean we will see more feats related to their physical statures, and possibly new feats rather than vague statments. As said by the author in his interview, he likes to write fighting scenes. And since Koenji is kept as mysterious character from the beginning of the series, we may get new ap feats too.
 
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