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The point is that they can either immediately leave before the electromagnetic field reaches them or remain where they were and be affected by the electromagnetic field.
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Note how they receive levels of fatigue if they want to remain in combat where the field takes effect. That’s them resisting the EM field trying to push them away, hence the choice involved for the players. They aren’t choosing to leave under their own power, it’s a choice between
- They get pushed away by the field
- Resist the field to stay in cqc but suffer a debuff.
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It literally says they have to/choose to move out of the way. And regarding it being lore, it comes from an appendices of moves, the majority of which were performed in the shows.
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It's just like Brackish said, they're immediately moving out of range.
What kind of comparison is this? This doesn't make any sense. It's unbelievable that you thought comparing game stats to a character who is specifically stated to be able to dodge an attack would be valid.
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The choice is not to dodge it, it is to get repelled or fight against it. If the options are to fight against the repulsion or somehow get moved out of its AoE, why would we assume that it’s the person in question dodging the field before it reaches them, achieving the same result, and not literally the ability which is meant to repel them? You are pushing for it to be a speed feat purely for higher statistics instead accuracy.
And like I explained, it is not the character moving, it’s the player having the choice to be moved by the technique or resist it.
Because the very same sentence is talking about game mechanics? You understand that right? The first line is a descriptor of what the EM field actually does, the following lines are how it’s applied in the actual game.
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"[The player] must immediately move away and disengage from you." Nowhere in that sentence does it say the player is being thrown or repelled by the forcefield; the player is moving using their own power. Although they will be repelled if they stay in their vicinity.
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The description literally begins with “Activate an electromagnetic field around yourself to repel metallic objects.” This is very obviously what is moving people but you keep ignoring the simplest explanation for why the affected objects are being moved by an ability whose sole purpose is to move them in favor of wanking a feat that doesn’t even matter? The “movement” is at best a gameplay mechanic for a non-canon story that applies to literally nothing but itself.
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I still disagree with your interpretation, but I mostly brought this up as supporting evidence for earlier speed stiff anyway.
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That’s fine, we can agree to disagree. It’s just fiction at the end of the day.
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The Reckoning of Roku novel came out early in some bookstores, namely Books-A-Million, which is where I got my copy from. I read through the entire novel last night. Here's the things that caught my attention on my read-through. Spoilers, obviously.
During a fight, Roku casually incinerates some rocks that an earthbender throws at him. It's later established that firebenders can heat up rocks to the point where it turns into lava, though only earthbenders can control said lava.
There's a person who uses airbending to slice a man's ear off, and generally uses it to slice her opponents. The ttrpg already stated that air slices could be performed without a staff, so it's cool to see it see in action.
Roku enters a spiritual cavern that greatly amplifies bending power, and while he's there he can produce dragon fire, confirming that it is stronger then regular firebending.
Speaking of said cavern, there's some major blueballing concerning it as when Sozin first hears about the cavern from a scroll, the scroll's writer states that firebenders utilizing its power are capable of moving the sun. Yes, you read that right. Unfortunately, the scroll later turns out to be apocryphal, with none of the firebending displayed being close to that level; however the dubiousness of the account mostly comes from the claim that the entire island powers up benders, when the powerup is just relegated to the cave on the island. It still grants a power boost as mentioned; one of the plot points of the novel is that the miles-long island where the cave is located is shrouded in mist. The mist turns out to be created by three waterbenders who are in the cave, and its pointed out that a bending feat like that would normally require a hundred benders or so. The scroll did state that waterbenders could control the weather, which turned out to be true. In fact, the feats it states about earthbending and airbending turn out to be true as well. So there remains the possibility that the sun statement could be true. What's more, Roku directly compares the power of the cavern to what the avatar state possibly feels like, though he hadn't unlocked it by that point. It's also worth noting that none of the characters ever learn who Asho (the author of the scroll) is, and what became of them after they left the island is never revealed. So it's possible that this novel might have a sequel that ties up some loose ends, just like the previous avatar novels.
During a fight, Roku casually incinerates some rocks that an earthbender throws at him. It's later established that firebenders can heat up rocks to the point where it turns into lava, though only earthbenders can control said lava.
There's a person who uses airbending to slice a man's ear off, and generally uses it to slice her opponents. The ttrpg already stated that air slices could be performed without a staff, so it's cool to see it see in action.
Roku enters a spiritual cavern that greatly amplifies bending power, and while he's there he can produce dragon fire, confirming that it is stronger then regular firebending.
Speaking of said cavern, there's some major blueballing concerning it as when Sozin first hears about the cavern from a scroll, the scroll's writer states that firebenders utilizing its power are capable of moving the sun. Yes, you read that right. Unfortunately, the scroll later turns out to be apocryphal, with none of the firebending displayed being close to that level; however the dubiousness of the account mostly comes from the claim that the entire island powers up benders, when the powerup is just relegated to the cave on the island. It still grants a power boost as mentioned; one of the plot points of the novel is that the miles-long island where the cave is located is shrouded in mist. The mist turns out to be created by three waterbenders who are in the cave, and its pointed out that a bending feat like that would normally require a hundred benders or so. The scroll did state that waterbenders could control the weather, which turned out to be true. In fact, the feats it states about earthbending and airbending turn out to be true as well. So there remains the possibility that the sun statement could be true. What's more, Roku directly compares the power of the cavern to what the avatar state possibly feels like, though he hadn't unlocked it by that point. It's also worth noting that none of the characters ever learn who Asho (the author of the scroll) is, and what became of them after they left the island is never revealed. So it's possible that this novel might have a sequel that ties up some loose ends, just like the previous avatar novels.
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Also, this will probably upset some folks, but it turns out that Iroh didn't invent lightning redirection, as there exists scrolls in Wan Shi Tong's library that prove the technique existed by the time of Roku.
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Oh hey finally something I can consoom.
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Has anyone else read the Reckoning of Roku?
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I'm curious about something. The avatar tabletop rpg is regarded as canon, and all of the modules have appendices in the back that goes over bending moves. They also say how much these moves affect the target if they connect; ie whether the enemy is stunned or is incapacitated/about to die. Since most avatar characters are in the same tier physically (7-C), would these affects be applicable to vs matches if the opponent has no resistance to the bending element?
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When was that established?
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The ttrpg is under the label of avatar legends, which is confirmed as containing canonical events. It also gives details about characters who have only been alluded to in other materials. I've used the ttrpg as supporting evidence in prior crts, even.
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I've come across a feat in one of the rpg playbooks where Old Toph during the Korra era can prevent an entire island from collapsing. Would this count as AP, or lifting strength? At the bare minimum, this should upgrade her lifting strength since the island has several mountains on it.
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I think it would count for both? Since the library calculation is accepted as AP and LS.I've come across a feat in one of the rpg playbooks where Old Toph during the Korra era can prevent an entire island from collapsing. Would this count as AP, or lifting strength? At the bare minimum, this should upgrade her lifting strength since the island has several mountains on it.
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Toph Beifong is an earthbending master, one of the most powerful of her time, and the discoverer of metalbending. Blind since birth, Toph was constantly treated condescendingly because of her disability, particularly by her overprotective parents, Lao and Poppy Beifong. Upon discovering...
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I made a crt for the feat and unfortunately it looks like the result likely won't be island-level. The book doesn't really give much detail of how big Jasmine Island is.I think it would count for both? Since the library calculation is accepted as AP and LS.
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Toph Beifong is an earthbending master, one of the most powerful of her time, and the discoverer of metalbending. Blind since birth, Toph was constantly treated condescendingly because of her disability, particularly by her overprotective parents, Lao and Poppy Beifong. Upon discovering...
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I hope in one of the future installments in the franchise, we get to see an avatar that has learned all bending subskills. It would probably have to be noncanon due to how busted that would be. I want to see an avatar wielding psychic bloodbending and lightning generation.
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