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After talking about Avatar with some people and thinking about it for a bit, I wanted to try and address some issues regarding the feats from other Avatars. The calcs from previous Avatars, like the Volcano, are done well and are fine, that's not where the problem comes from. What is a problem though is how they are being scaled here. I'll start with Korra first and then get to my 2nd thing.
1.) From Aang's page - "City level via power-scaling (From other adult Avatars and his successor, Korra, was able to redirect the energy of the Spirit Energy Cannon, which vaporized a large portion of a mountai)"
Basically, what the bolded words are saying here is that Aang is City level because of Korra, his successor, redirects a spirit beam from Kuvira's spirit cannon via AS. Now the feat itself is no problem. However, what is a problem here is the assumption that Aang should actually scale from Korra's AS. Exactly why should he? Incase anyone doesn't remember from S2, Korra became disconnected from Aang and the previous past Avatars because Unalaq destroyed Raava. Putting it blatently, Korra can't access their strengths, skills and knowledge through her own AS anymore. She is only connected with Raava and her AS from this point on is just a big power boost to her bending. Because she and Aang are no longer connected, there is no reason to suddenly assume Aang's Avatar State is just as strong or even on par with Korra's AS when facing Kuvira EoS. Remember, this is the very last feat Korra pulls off in AS when at her strongest in the series and because no Avatar before her is connected to her to provide her with their power, Korra is simply relying on her own independant strength (that and because of her lost connection she has a deeper connection to Raava than any Avatar sans Wan) instead of the past Avatars, making it unreasonable to believe they can suddenly scale toward this.
Speaking of the Avatar State, that brings me to my second issue with his City rating..
2.) About the Avatar State...why are we assuming that each and every single Avatar is as equally strong as the one who does a feat on their own? For example, the Fire Avatar that did the Volcano feat and assuming that every Avatar using AS is equally as strong. This would kind of be headcanon. The Avatar State is explicity mentioned to be a mechanism for the current Avatar to possess the combined strength of every single one of their past lives when using it. What does that mean? It means when an Avatar does a feat in the AS, they use the combined strength of every Avatar to do that specific feat. So for the Volcano feat for instance (and we know the Fire Avatar was using the AS as that was a part of Roku's explanation to Aang), every Avatar that scales wouldnt (or rather shouldn't) be City level Individually. They would be partically that level individually when combining in one Avatars body to perform that one feat.
Now this probably wouldn't downgrade Aang from City if anything, just make him lower in the tier most likely.
1.) From Aang's page - "City level via power-scaling (From other adult Avatars and his successor, Korra, was able to redirect the energy of the Spirit Energy Cannon, which vaporized a large portion of a mountai)"
Basically, what the bolded words are saying here is that Aang is City level because of Korra, his successor, redirects a spirit beam from Kuvira's spirit cannon via AS. Now the feat itself is no problem. However, what is a problem here is the assumption that Aang should actually scale from Korra's AS. Exactly why should he? Incase anyone doesn't remember from S2, Korra became disconnected from Aang and the previous past Avatars because Unalaq destroyed Raava. Putting it blatently, Korra can't access their strengths, skills and knowledge through her own AS anymore. She is only connected with Raava and her AS from this point on is just a big power boost to her bending. Because she and Aang are no longer connected, there is no reason to suddenly assume Aang's Avatar State is just as strong or even on par with Korra's AS when facing Kuvira EoS. Remember, this is the very last feat Korra pulls off in AS when at her strongest in the series and because no Avatar before her is connected to her to provide her with their power, Korra is simply relying on her own independant strength (that and because of her lost connection she has a deeper connection to Raava than any Avatar sans Wan) instead of the past Avatars, making it unreasonable to believe they can suddenly scale toward this.
Speaking of the Avatar State, that brings me to my second issue with his City rating..
2.) About the Avatar State...why are we assuming that each and every single Avatar is as equally strong as the one who does a feat on their own? For example, the Fire Avatar that did the Volcano feat and assuming that every Avatar using AS is equally as strong. This would kind of be headcanon. The Avatar State is explicity mentioned to be a mechanism for the current Avatar to possess the combined strength of every single one of their past lives when using it. What does that mean? It means when an Avatar does a feat in the AS, they use the combined strength of every Avatar to do that specific feat. So for the Volcano feat for instance (and we know the Fire Avatar was using the AS as that was a part of Roku's explanation to Aang), every Avatar that scales wouldnt (or rather shouldn't) be City level Individually. They would be partically that level individually when combining in one Avatars body to perform that one feat.
Now this probably wouldn't downgrade Aang from City if anything, just make him lower in the tier most likely.