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Hello, this thread focuses on The Void of Arrowverse cosmology.
This is a very typical void of nothingness.
The Void is the infinite nothingness in which God and Goddess create their creation.
It is said to be nothingness both by God and by Lucifer. And the Goddess confirms Lucifer. So the two omniscient beings in the verse and one of the most ancient beings in the verse say that the Void is nothingness.
And The Void precedes creation (So it precedes space-time and dimensions. So there is no space-time or dimension in The Void.), it is a place where even the Forces Of Nature, which covers places devoid of space-time and before space-time, cannot reach, and even The Bleed, which reaches the highest layers of reality, cannot reach. In other words, the Void is an infinite nothingness that has no Space-Time or dimensions, that cannot be reached by beings in creation, that is transcends reality.
Quoting Tiering System page -
God and Goddess reside in the same state of existence as the Void, as they are beings that preceded creation and exist in the Void. This makes them 1-A.
God and Goddess also receive BDE 2.
This is a very typical void of nothingness.
The Void is the infinite nothingness in which God and Goddess create their creation.
It is said to be nothingness both by God and by Lucifer. And the Goddess confirms Lucifer. So the two omniscient beings in the verse and one of the most ancient beings in the verse say that the Void is nothingness.
Lucifer 2x16 "God Johnson"God: There was nothing, just darkness and then she appeared.
And The Void precedes creation (So it precedes space-time and dimensions. So there is no space-time or dimension in The Void.), it is a place where even the Forces Of Nature, which covers places devoid of space-time and before space-time, cannot reach, and even The Bleed, which reaches the highest layers of reality, cannot reach. In other words, the Void is an infinite nothingness that has no Space-Time or dimensions, that cannot be reached by beings in creation, that is transcends reality.
- It was accepted in this thread that The Bleed extends to the highest layers of reality
The void is a perfect fit for 1-A.As a default, statements of being "above dimensions" are set at Low 1-A, and the same is applied to statements indicating superiority over "All of space and time," and similar. However, if they are applied to realms that can be inferred to surpass the very composition of the lower reality (e.g. Realms that are, themselves, non-composite, such as conceptual domains, or often, voids of nothingness), then 1-A is the most appropriate rating for them.
Furthermore, keep in mind that Type 2 Beyond-Dimensional Existence (In particular the latter variant) is not simply a combination of a non-dimensional state of existence and greater raw power than all dimensional structures in a cosmology – Though that is a necessary condition to qualify for it, it is not a sufficient one. Instead, the non-dimensional state of existence must be the direct cause of the character/realm's superiority over dimensions. A simple example being voids of nothingness that lack space, time and physicality entirely, but are nonetheless "vaster" than physical reality in some way, with common imagery being the universe as a small object encompassed in such a backdrop.
So how does this affect the verse?
Only a few characters scale to void.Quoting Tiering System page -
According to the Tier page, residing in the same state of existence as the 1-A realms is enough for 1-ACharacters or objects residing in higher states of existence surpassing material composition as a whole, and who are therefore completely unreachable and inaccessible to any and all extensions of the aforementioned structures.
God and Goddess reside in the same state of existence as the Void, as they are beings that preceded creation and exist in the Void. This makes them 1-A.
God and Goddess also receive BDE 2.
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