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Are normal humans in Witcher (Game) 9-A?
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Yes
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Witcher 2's Dragon Bestiary literally answers your question.
Also, Leo Bonhart killed witchers for a living. And there's peasants overpowering Regis and his gang. The Bloody Baron holding his own against Geralt in the main story missions. And of course there's the fist-fighting tournament.
There's the Golyat and the dragon too if you haven't already seen that.
Also, Leo Bonhart killed witchers for a living. And there's peasants overpowering Regis and his gang. The Bloody Baron holding his own against Geralt in the main story missions. And of course there's the fist-fighting tournament.
There's the Golyat and the dragon too if you haven't already seen that.
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And the Skellige warriors/Ves and Vernon holding their own against Wild Hunt members/Ves could kill Geralt with crossbow, and so could some bandits "kill" Letho et cetera...
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All of them being part of missions that can drastically alter the story as a whole. Calling those fights as mere game mechanics completely defeats the purpose of powerscaling and context of the feats and the whole purpose of the story. It's basically like saying they completed the mission without killing a single soul.
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Oh yeah, also to the OP = 9-A attack potency =/= 9-A destructive capacity. 9-A AP and dura means they can damage and take hits from 9-A characters, not that they can actually cut a boulder in half
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Well, dwarves are stated to be stronger than humans but that's also a point.M3X said:
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Some humans are probably 9-A, peasents are normal human level and they can hurt Geralt only with pointed weapons, I don't know if Geralt's skin is harder than a human skin and if It is so the "feats" of peasents are PIS.
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Witchers have much greater muscle growth than normal human and armors.
Well, Geralt was surrounded by hundreds of them and wasn't willing to kill but still.
Well, Geralt was surrounded by hundreds of them and wasn't willing to kill but still.
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Of course he is, as he got even more mutations than for example Eskel.
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@OP
Any more questions regarding current rating of characters?
Any more questions regarding current rating of characters?
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also this thread is specifically referring to people who have actually fought against Geralt one-on-one judging by the clutter on Bambu's wall, in which case, this is a definite yes.
Though the one-on-one cases are either A. Part of the fistfighting tournament AKA these aren't your ordinary day-to-day peasants and B. Elite guardsmen trained in swordplay with the Nilfgaardians to boot (Forgive me if I butchered the spelling) or some other monarchy that's still standing
Though the one-on-one cases are either A. Part of the fistfighting tournament AKA these aren't your ordinary day-to-day peasants and B. Elite guardsmen trained in swordplay with the Nilfgaardians to boot (Forgive me if I butchered the spelling) or some other monarchy that's still standing
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But Dettlaff could kill hundreds of well trained soldier as said by Geralt.SpookyShadow said:
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Because Dettlaff is no joke and was never really holding back
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Slacjow. "Normal Human level" does not mean that every normal human in fiction is 10-B and Normal Human in speed. That's the AP and Speed of IRL humans, not fictional humans. We base fictional humans statistics on their feats, and for normal humans who compare to Geralt, that's a feat.
It doesn't matter if that means tier 7 or sub-real normal humans. If that's what their feats depict, it's what they get.
It doesn't matter if that means tier 7 or sub-real normal humans. If that's what their feats depict, it's what they get.
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Only problem I got with scaling on normal Witcher humanoids like Roche is their speed, when normally even when skill and AP is fairly close they still get laid out by higher-tier supernatural opponents. For example, Eyck of Denesle gets busted up big time by Villentretenmerth even though Eyck is a prolific dragonslayer, with Yennefer, who watched the fight, remarking that Borch (not gonna type that dragon's real name again) had Eyck beat in speed and that was why he won. She then states that Geralt is the only one in the group who has a solid chance of beating Borch one-on-one, since he's the fastest one there. So while I wouldn't be averse to saying that "normal" Witcher humanoids are upwards of Subsonic, I wouldn't say they keep up with the stronger monsters, or Witchers. In fact, Dettlaff and Regis (the two who are the basis of Witcher's current speed rating) blitz a castle full of bandits during a part of Blood and Wine's main quest.
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I think Geralt was also 2x stronger than a man or more.
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I know that, but there's still enough instances of non-Witchers getting trounced, if not outright blitzed by Witchers and high-tier monsters that I don't think they should scale in that regard even if they scale to them in AP somewhatKLOL506 said:
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It depends what kind of Witcher it is. Bonhart killed three, iirc from Cat, Griffin and Kaer Morhen, Sapkowski himself said that he wasn't mutated in anyway, he just said he was "really good". Of course it's different from Geralt who's almost 100 years old and has enhanced mutations. So it depends what Witcher we are talking about.
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Now this is kinda complicated
is the op referring about the ones who could fight with a witcher alone or those who can fight with a witcher in groups
because it's a yes and a no
the The First is pure power even being able to keep up with a witcher it's pure 9-A
The second one i don't believe that they are 9-A, because even if they land a shot on a witcher they can barely do anything to a witcher
and arrow would kill a human near instantly if hit in a important organ while a witcher would not even care even it hit it's heart
Witchers are only ever killed by peasants because they set them in a trap and majority of the time that doesn't even work
So it's a yes and a no
is the op referring about the ones who could fight with a witcher alone or those who can fight with a witcher in groups
because it's a yes and a no
the The First is pure power even being able to keep up with a witcher it's pure 9-A
The second one i don't believe that they are 9-A, because even if they land a shot on a witcher they can barely do anything to a witcher
and arrow would kill a human near instantly if hit in a important organ while a witcher would not even care even it hit it's heart
Witchers are only ever killed by peasants because they set them in a trap and majority of the time that doesn't even work
So it's a yes and a no
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That's an obvious yesKLOL506 said:
Any human who has been able to keep up with geralt or any other witcher on 1v1 should be 9-A (or 8-C)
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OP disagrees with that statement and thinks that because of this Geralt shouldn't scale to the dragons or the Golyat either because "he took hits from them in gameplay moments".
Which of course, is obvious bullshit because the Golyat and the Dragons are all part of the game's main storyline and even the Witcher 2 Bestiary outright states Witchers being literally made to fight dragons. With said gameplay moments being LITERALLY UNAVOIDABLE AND BEING PART OF THE MAIN MISSION. He's literally denying the very purpose of boss fights in video games.
Which of course, is obvious bullshit because the Golyat and the Dragons are all part of the game's main storyline and even the Witcher 2 Bestiary outright states Witchers being literally made to fight dragons. With said gameplay moments being LITERALLY UNAVOIDABLE AND BEING PART OF THE MAIN MISSION. He's literally denying the very purpose of boss fights in video games.
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If this is OP's mindest then i'll highly suggest reading the lore of a verse before you're try to debate because you might then have legitimate points then
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