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Actually some of this may not be entirely true.
Is there any evidence that the Creation trio's creation of matter came before the lake trio's creation of spirit? Given how the lake trio are supposed to be beings who bind Time and Space respectively, it would make sense that the creation of both matter and spirit came at the exact same occurence does it not? In addition, humans being able to exist before the lake trio's creation of spirit does not add up because for one, humans being a thing by that time is completely speculative and seeing as how, like you said, everything is listed in "steps", it would seem that those steps take place one after the other in an immediate fashion. This would only make sense if the creation trio's creation of matter/multiverse took place in a slow process while it would seem to be very immediate. Furthermore, there isnt any way that humans nor pokemon could have even come to be without spirit as its clear they have been and are depicted as having souls and if matter came before spirit, then maybe the multiverse came before their spiritual creation, but surely not living sentient beings.
Also, IIRC, we treat the "turmoil of Chaos" as Nothingness as there is only one part of the lore that states that while everywhere else it states nothing, like in the Pokedex. But don't quote me on that, that's just how I assumed it to be based on everyone else's treatment towards the pkmn lore.
Yes but as Azzy pointed out, using an example like that which only benefits us has no comparison to such trivial concepts that affect existence as a whole in a fundamental way, as you yourself pointed out. One would be manipulating a concept while the other would not due to have low and very limited the process would be. For example, take Creation. I can go get the neccesarry tools and parts needed to make a house. But buliding anything, especially tiny things like those, wouldnt be anywhere close to the same as someone creating a universe/multiverse which would be true creation. One is creating and the other is buliding. The same could apply here. Making a concept that brings no signifigant change and is only putting together other things into one that benefits only so much instead of creating a concept that affects everything is not the same thing or on the same level.
I'll let Azzy deal with the rest if he has anything to say. Just wanted to address these.
Is there any evidence that the Creation trio's creation of matter came before the lake trio's creation of spirit? Given how the lake trio are supposed to be beings who bind Time and Space respectively, it would make sense that the creation of both matter and spirit came at the exact same occurence does it not? In addition, humans being able to exist before the lake trio's creation of spirit does not add up because for one, humans being a thing by that time is completely speculative and seeing as how, like you said, everything is listed in "steps", it would seem that those steps take place one after the other in an immediate fashion. This would only make sense if the creation trio's creation of matter/multiverse took place in a slow process while it would seem to be very immediate. Furthermore, there isnt any way that humans nor pokemon could have even come to be without spirit as its clear they have been and are depicted as having souls and if matter came before spirit, then maybe the multiverse came before their spiritual creation, but surely not living sentient beings.
Also, IIRC, we treat the "turmoil of Chaos" as Nothingness as there is only one part of the lore that states that while everywhere else it states nothing, like in the Pokedex. But don't quote me on that, that's just how I assumed it to be based on everyone else's treatment towards the pkmn lore.
Yes but as Azzy pointed out, using an example like that which only benefits us has no comparison to such trivial concepts that affect existence as a whole in a fundamental way, as you yourself pointed out. One would be manipulating a concept while the other would not due to have low and very limited the process would be. For example, take Creation. I can go get the neccesarry tools and parts needed to make a house. But buliding anything, especially tiny things like those, wouldnt be anywhere close to the same as someone creating a universe/multiverse which would be true creation. One is creating and the other is buliding. The same could apply here. Making a concept that brings no signifigant change and is only putting together other things into one that benefits only so much instead of creating a concept that affects everything is not the same thing or on the same level.
I'll let Azzy deal with the rest if he has anything to say. Just wanted to address these.
