Anos vs Goetia

[Delta333]

Both use their strongest keys and speed is equalized
Anos:
Goetia:
Incon:8(InfiniteCosmology,DaReaperMan,Dereck03,AnosVoldigoad314,Loyd,Sonicflare9,MonkeyOfLife,Bernkastelll)

 

[Bernkastelll]

Uh, does Goetia resist Conceptual Manipulation that is above 100 layers of resistance?

 

[John985]

Servant Physiology page already mention Concept Resistance.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Servant Physiology page already mention Concept Resistance.

how much layers?

 

[John985]

Really need to ask when its CM2?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Really need to ask when its CM2?

Is it CM2?, okay then

 

[PsychoWarper]

Whats up with the obsession with Fate vs Anos? Like why do we need every Fate 2-A against Anos?

 

[Shmooply]

Whats up with the obsession with Fate vs Anos? Like why do we need every Fate 2-A against Anos?

Because of the funny Fate CRTs.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Alright, thankfully it seems Anos is safe from Goetia just mind and soul ripping him just for looking at it, but I see no reason to treat this as anything but a stomp: either Anos just stalls because even nuking the concepts of earth doesn't stop his regen or Goetia stalls by favour of just being immune to his shit and having ridiculous type 8. So incon

 

[Delta333]

Alright, thankfully it seems Anos is safe from Goetia just mind and soul ripping him just for looking at it, but I see no reason to treat this as anything but a stomp: either Anos just stalls because even nuking the concepts of earth doesn't stop his regen or Goetia stalls by favour of just being immune to his shit and having ridiculous type 8. So incon

immortality type 8 can be negged and gets incap

 

[Bernkastelll]

Alright, thankfully it seems Anos is safe from Goetia just mind and soul ripping him just for looking at it, but I see no reason to treat this as anything but a stomp: either Anos just stalls because even nuking the concepts of earth doesn't stop his regen or Goetia stalls by favour of just being immune to his shit and having ridiculous type 8. So incon

Anos can neg Immortality 8

 

[John985]

He have type 8 and type 9.

 

[DaReaperMan]

immortality type 8 can be negged and gets incap

Incapped with what? Goetia is basically immune to magecraft in Nasuverse, which includes 2-A smurf shit which covers Anos's incap options because he is not touching a 2-A

 

[John985]

And why is it I dont see any soul resistance on Anos resistance tab?

 

[DaReaperMan]

And why is it I dont see any soul resistance on Anos resistance tab?

What. Goetia puts his soul in purgatory then by looking at him.

 

[Delta333]

Incapped with what? Goetia is basically immune to magecraft in Nasuverse, which includes 2-A smurf shit which covers Anos's incap options because he is not touching a 2-A

sealing,body puppetry etc

 

[PsychoWarper]

Im assuming its cause of the whole he doesnt need his soul or whatever.

 

[DaReaperMan]

sealing,body puppetry etc

Resisted/countered

 

[Delta333]

Resisted

where?I can't find it

 

[PsychoWarper]

sealing,body puppetry etc

Pretty sure those are resisted/negated.

 

[Delta333]

okay but I can't find it

 

[DaReaperMan]

where?I can't find it

Solomon's ten rings pretty much grant Goetia clairvoyance of past present and future, as well as grant Goetia immunity to all magecraft, which those fall under.

 

[Delta333]

all magecraft, which those fall under.

but...where?can you give me a link about it

 

[DaReaperMan]

If Goetia can't dodge it, he time travels and dodges it that way

 

[PsychoWarper]

I didnt think the Clairvoyance came from the Rings but come from Solomon himself.

 

[Delta333]

If Goetia can't dodge it, he time travels and dodges it that way

Anos can use time travel

 

[Naito-desu]

Man it's like Servant Physiology page doesn't exist for you people

 

[Regidian]

Nega-Summon: A skill that negates and demolishes any attack from Servants by completely nullifying their Noble Phantasms through invulnerability, invalidation, absorption and reduction.


Rings of Solomon: Ten rings given to Solomon by God. As long as he has all ten, Solomon can negate and control any magecraft performed by mankind. As he possesses Solomon's body, he can use these ten rings himself

I think they talk about that?

 

[PsychoWarper]

Im assuming its these,

“Power Nullificationand Power Mimicry (With the ten Rings of Solomon, he can negate any magecraft used by humans and then use it for himself. Has a field surrounding him that made it impossible for Chaldea to Rayshift back to the present. The Trash Heap has various nullifying effects)”

“Damage Reduction, and Power Nullification with Nega-Summon (Allows Goetia to cancel and negate any Noble Phantasm save for Ars Nova through invulnerability, absorption, power reduction and invalidation)”

“Servant Physiology”

Also im curious does Anos resist Plot Manip?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Anos can use time travel

At a thought? Cause if not Goetia plays a game of Anos not being able to get past his clairvoyance

 

[Delta333]

Nega-Summon: A skill that negates and demolishes any attack from Servants by completely nullifying their Noble Phantasms through invulnerability, invalidation, absorption and reduction.


Rings of Solomon: Ten rings given to Solomon by God. As long as he has all ten, Solomon can negate and control any magecraft performed by mankind. As he possesses Solomon's body, he can use these ten rings himself

I think they talk about that?

they said magecraft stuff covers everything on Anos's profile and I can't find anything about magecraft

 

[DaReaperMan]

they said magecraft stuff covers everything on Anos's profile and I can't find anything about magecraft

Magecraft is magic in Fate, if anos uses anything supernatural its nullified

 

[PsychoWarper]

Afaik a blog or anything like that hasnt been made for Nasu Magecraft.

 

[Delta333]

Also im curious does Anos resist Plot Manip?

iirc plot manip is not his first move

 

[DaReaperMan]

Anyways if Goetia can't stall this is a stomp in Anos's favour

 

[PsychoWarper]

iirc plot manip is not his first move

But he does have extremely high level Clairvoyance so if it would work he would know and hed know what wouldnt work as well.

 

[Delta333]

Anyways if Goetia can't stall this is a stomp in Anos's favour

Goetia has soul hax as wincon so not,this is not stomp

 

[John985]

Hayz, really need another CRT huh, for fate characters. Medea UBW day 6

My limbs-----they aren't following my orders, and they are walking on as if manipulated by something.

And from what I remember, Araya have some type of sealing so that Shiki cant get out, but she just destroyed it.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Maybe we should make a Blog or power page for Nasu Magecraft.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Goetia has soul hax as wincon so not,this is not stomp

Goetia's soul hax happens by LOOKING at it, if it actually worked this would be a stomp in Goetia's favour