Anos Voldigoad vs Arceus

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Okay just seeing how Anos Voldigoad is OP and that he's one of the most popular pages on this wiki. I want to see if he can beat arceus or not.

Ano's Profile

Arceus's Profile

Rules:

Both are 2-B (avatar form arceus and True Power for Anos) edit: arceus true form is type 2

Both are bloodlusted

Speed equalized

Ano's has Venuzdonoa

win via death or incap or bfr (this is if anos can beat arceus but cannot truly kill him)

No knowledge or prep

Battle in space

Also sorry if off topic but does anyone of you find it boring that most powers like fate manipulation, causality manipulation, etc are just variations of reality warping. And why do cosmic fights allows just use energy beams and stuff. it's just boring. Man i wish humans could perceive everything. this would make cosmic fights look more interesting and cool. also when you do use the powers mentioned in the first sentence they just take the form of a normal type of death. like just dying suddenly without cause and stuff or any other normal/matterish way to die. why couldn't it be something different. (why couldn't we perceive it as something differently. We just see things as just punches, electricity, fire, or anything that looks matterish. that's just plain boring)

Matterish: anything involving matter like you or me.

anyway now back on topic.

who wins and why.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Ano's has Venuzdonoa

What even is the reason of using Arnos 2-B key with Venuzdonoa?

 

[Everything12]

Arceus' True Form is a Type 2 Concept, Anos can't do anything. Mismatch.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Arceus' True Form is a Type 2 Concept, Anos can't do anything. Mismatch.

what if we use avatar form.

i'll do that if it changes anything

 

[Everything12]

Arceus still has Type 9 on said untouchable true form.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Well, he doesnt have it on his Avatar key

 

[Thelastmlg]

Yes he does, is the second power listed

 

[Bernkastelll]

Yes he does, is the second power listed

Where?

 

[Thelastmlg]

Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Immortality (Types 1, 2, 3, 7, 8 and 9), Higher-Dimensional Manipulation (Upscaled from Hoopa)

 

[Bernkastelll]

Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Immortality (Types 1, 2, 3, 7, 8 and 9), Higher-Dimensional Manipulation (Upscaled from Hoopa)

Oof, I thought u mean Large Size type 9 instead of immortality, anyways, how does his type 9 works? He revives? Regen?

 

[Everything12]

Arceus' True Form creates a new Avatar.

 

[theultimate5105]

Oof, I thought u mean Large Size type 9 instead of immortality, anyways, how does his type 9 works? He revives? Regen?

creating a new Avatar

 

[Bernkastelll]

Does Arceus avatar has resistance to CM?

 

[Regidian]

Does we have a feat of the true form creating a new avatar?

 

[theultimate5105]

Does we have a feat of the true form creating a new avatar?

Arceus’s true form never appears and his Avatar by itself is the strongest in the verse so he never did

 

[Thelastmlg]

Idk, might be based on how he just willed his avatar when he felt like it, and how he can create new CT members at will, which are parts of his body.

Is probably similar to bill cipher low godly

 

[Bernkastelll]

Then why is people saying that Arceus creates a new avatar?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Is probably similar to bill cipher low godly

Bill regen from his mind

 

[Bernkastelll]

Anyways, literally all pokemon matches are like this, based in nothing and it all comes to ''what if''?, so, yeah, im not paying to this circus, unfollowing

 

[Everything12]

Bye.

 

[Regidian]

So it mean that we don't know if true form arceus would recreate a avatar if the avatar is killed.


I'm pretty sure that we don't conclude that the true form automatically reform avatar if don't show. That was used in some CM battle if i remember

 

[Lou_change]

Does Arceus avatar has resistance to CM?

No. But he can create more then one avatar given they appear in different games or both the manga and anime. Can create avatars of the creation trio who are part of it. Also Arceus's probability manipulation.

 

[theultimate5105]

Arceus just passively precogs and BFRs Anos to the distortion world

 

[Thelastmlg]

Bill regen from his mind

Btw about this, bill regen because he wanted, it wasn't automatic.

 

[InfiniteCosmology]

Anyways, literally all pokemon matches are like this, based in nothing and it all comes to ''what if''?, so, yeah, im not paying to this circus, unfollowing

exactly.

 

[Dereck03]

Spite thread

 

[Coolboy6]

Ah yes, another thread with Anos in it. This is gonna end well

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

since this is avatar form instead of true form. Isn't this a win for anos if he kills the avatar?

 

[Thelastmlg]

Yeah I'm pretty sure, unless someone can bring up reasons for him to come back.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

bump

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

bump

 

[Rez]

since this is avatar form instead of true form. Isn't this a win for anos if he kills the avatar?

No type 9 immortality means arceus can just create more Avatars

 

[Rez]

No. But he can create more then one avatar given they appear in different games or both the manga and anime. Can create avatars of the creation trio who are part of it. Also Arceus's probability manipulation.

Read this for type 9 related stuff

 

[StrymULTRA]

For Type 9, is simple common sense. Avatars of Abstract Beings are assumed to have Type 9 like Enerjack, simply because they can't die as long as the True Form exists unless shown otherwise.

Anyways, literally all pokemon matches are like this, based in nothing and it all comes to ''what if''?, so, yeah, im not paying to this circus, unfollowing

If you can't accept a character having a power then this isn't the place to complain.

 

[Bernkastelll]

If you can't accept a character having a power then this isn't the place to complain.

I never said it, I said that nobody even explains how it works, even in this thread, some people said that he creates a new avatar, but others said that he never did it, so, whatever, I didnt complained, I just unfollowed the thread, but somehow, the notification appears to me

 

[StrymULTRA]

I never said it, I said that nobody even explains how it works, even in this thread, some people said that he creates a new avatar, but others said that he never did it, so, whatever, I didnt complained, I just unfollowed the thread, but somehow, the notification appears to me

Avatars never died, that's why. But is Type 9 for simple standard assumption.

 

[Bernkastelll]

standard assumption.

can u show the rule? i didnt saw it

 

[StrymULTRA]

can u show the rule? i didnt saw it

It's just more how characters like Arceus are treated across the wiki, see Enerjack or Unicorn.

 

[Bernkastelll]

It's just more how characters like Arceus are treated across the wiki, see Enerjack or Unicorn.

But what is the standard that it is based on?

 

[StrymULTRA]

But what is the standard that it is based on?

For Type 9, is simple common sense. Avatars of Abstract Beings are assumed to have Type 9 like Enerjack, simply because they can't die as long as the True Form exists unless shown otherwise.

Make a CRT about it if you don't agree.