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Yamcha isekai:If Zamasu is from another universe and moved to universe 7, could we count Zamasu as an isekai protagonist?
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Jiren is above Infinite Zamasu's 2-C state but not his eventual Low 1-C state as he got erased before he could ever reach that state.
RoninSlayer200
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Disagree, jiren is weaker than yamcha because he never fought him 🗣
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Didn't Zeno erase an entire timeline, meaning Zamasu already reached that, which is supported by the fact he was affecting other timelines?
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Bro, Yamcha is top 3 strongest DB characterDisagree, jiren is weaker than yamcha because he never fought him 🗣
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I think this was the thread where the upgrade happened. Feel free to read it to answer any of your questions
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Other one timeline*
And he was most likely just reopening connection established by Goku Black. Look.
Rifts looks a bit different because one was forcefully opened by Zamasu and other opened by time ring, but other than that everything is the same. It's in the same place, same characters are standing next to it, it's compared to Black's rift and Pilaf says something is about to come out AGAIN.
And (I may be wrong but correct me) didn't Bulma used that connection to set parameters of Trunks' timeline in new time machine? I am sure in manga she said that connection between timelines is weakening so their travels are limited.
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Zeno erasing the timeline doesn't mean Zamasu himself merged with the entire thing. Zeno was already established to have erased 6 universes in the past due to getting slightly annoyed so him erasing the whole timeline due to finding Zamasu unpleasant is just him having sensitive trigger finger per say
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Do I need to read all 11 pages
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Disagree, jiren is weaker than yamcha because he never fought him 🗣
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Well, Beerus said he's affecting other(current) timeline "Something happened in the future. It's having an affect on the present."Other one timeline*
And he was most likely just reopening connection established by Goku Black. Look.
Rifts looks a bit different because one was forcefully opened by Zamasu and other opened by time ring, but other than that everything is the same. It's in the same place, same characters are standing next to it, it's compared to Black's rift and Pilaf says something is about to come out AGAIN.
And (I may be wrong but correct me) didn't Bulma used that connection to set parameters of Trunks' timeline in new time machine? I am sure in manga she said that connection between timelines is weakening so their travels are limited.
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I SWEAR TO GOD IF I'LL BE FORCED TO HEAR THIS YAPPING ONE MORE TIME TODAY I AM UNINSTALLING LEGENDS
Or play on mute because I am addicted *****.
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Whatever you need to get your answers.Do I need to read all 11 pages
Maybe someone who participated on that thread is here and could answer your questions. Not me, that's for sure. Iirc I saw the thread but didn't interact, or if I did interact I just don't remember
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Leaking trought the rift and trying to merge with other world is, in some way, affecting the present.
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Jiren's parents were slaughtered by a powerful foe, but the boy was spared, rescued by a man who would go on to become his master. From that day on, Jiren devoted himself to the path of righteous power, determined to forge himself into a steel wall no marauder could break. In time he made friends, a new community, and he followed his master's ways. Then, the same villain returned. Jiren and his new brothers in arms' stood against him. The boy was sure that this time, they would win. But the foe was too strong, and Jiren watched as his friends were slain one by one. Even Jiren's master lost his life in the merciless battle. Jiren tried to regroup and keep fighting, but, none of the other students would join him. With no hope of rescue, the people of his land were forced to submit to this cruel conquerer, and Jiren was left all alone. Jiren suffered untold grief when those he trusted walked away and betrayed their principles for the easier path. After that, his view of the world changed. He gave up trusting anyone. As he saw it there was only one great truth; that might, makes right. And that sheer strength determines all. Only victories assure allegiance. Subdue, and others will follow. Having feelings just gets in the way. I have become enamoured with his singular resolve. This colossal yearning for strength built on a bedrock of suffering, and desolation.
RoninSlayer200
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??? It's literally, he was literally coming through rift to enter present timeline and try to merge with present timeline.
Or you think Zamasu is just appearing for no reason???
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If he was trying to merge with other worlds, isn't that mean he already merged with his own(as he became justice itself)?
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I got shafted, this isn't funny.
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Where it's stated he is trying to merge with present tjmeline? Even opening time rift from future to present already count as affecting the present.
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So, do you have any Scan ? Because from what it looks like, he's going through the same rift and leaking into present time.
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I see it like this.
We have future ball 7 and present ball 7 in two different timelines. There is a connection between balls and both ends of these connections are inside of those balls. After merging with ball 7 from the future, Zamasu reopened his connection located inside of his ball and forced himself trough it to other end in the present ball 7.
In this way something happened in future and is affecting the present, trying to take over another ball. And potentially Zamasu could also merge with entire timeline over time and spread to more timelines by corrupting connection as well, but Zeno erased him when he was still on early stage.
That's at least how I interpret the whole Zamasu thing and why he is possibly tier 1. But I am aware most of people have different take than mine.
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Shafted on legends is always a bad time
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You are so close to giving me PTSD-
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What the hell gonna do in present timeline then? Just scare gotenks and others about "WOOO, I AM ZAMASU, I CAN MERGE WITH THIS TIMELINE BUT I WON'T, FEAR ME MORTALS!
" That's the easiest logical conclusion. Him opening time rift or not doesn't change anything genuinely.Scan for what? And we are just assuming things based on visuals? Then that's subjective.
And yeah, he was leaking into present time and then he was going further to merge his soul with everything else before getting nuked by Zeno.
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I remember there being an episode of DBS where it shows a comparison of all the enemies Goku has fought, and it looks like the green energy of the infinite Zamasu, but i don't remember exactly which episode it was.
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Why you assume merging with present timeline itself if it was never stated and he didn't even started merging with universe, let alone timeline? In fact he didn't even merged with timeline of his world. That's why he is "eventually Low 1-C" instead of just low 1-C.What the hell gonna do in present timeline then? Just scare gotenks and others about "WOOO, I AM ZAMASU, I CAN MERGE WITH THIS TIMELINE BUT I WON'T, FEAR ME MORTALS!
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That was funny 
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It's an almost self-evident truth. Like it's almost axiomatic in my opinion because anything other doesn't make sense and is heavily OOC. We see IZ's first move is literally starting to merge with everything.
1) He started merging with Trunks' timeline
2) Goes to the present timeline
3) So he's gonna just stay there and wait? Gonna creep people? That's what you think Zamasu was doing?
You demand proof when YOU should give me proof to assert your argument to be more logical than the obvious one. Him having "eventually" rating doesn't matter here because he can start to merge with other timelines while also merging with Trunks', that's no limitation at all.
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Where it's stated he is merging with timeline? Because I can give you a proof of him merging with universe. Even repeated twice.
Timeline was never mentioned. The only thing that may be interpreted as that is "affectting the present" which may mean absolutely everything. And him reopening Black's rift doesn't mean him merging with timeline because other end of that rift is literally inside of that universe he is merging with. On earth. Now I am waiting for your proofs other than headcanons.
I swear if not Zeno erasing timeline statement nobody would even interpret Infinite Zamasu as Timeline Zamasu...
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Zamasu, the biggest pranker of all timeWhat the hell gonna do in present timeline then? Just scare gotenks and others about "WOOO, I AM ZAMASU, I CAN MERGE WITH THIS TIMELINE BUT I WON'T, FEAR ME MORTALS!
Scan for what? And we are just assuming things based on visuals? Then that's subjective.
And yeah, he was leaking into present time and then he was going further to merge his soul with everything else before getting nuked by Zeno.
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Zamasu: I want to become the justice itself...but only for ONE universe.Where it's stated he is merging with timeline? Because I can give you a proof of him merging with universe. Even repeated twice.
Timeline was never mentioned. The only thing that may be interpreted as that is "affectting the present" which may mean absolutely everything. And him reopening Black's rift doesn't mean him merging with timeline because other end of that rift is literally inside of that universe he is merging with. On earth.
I swear if not Zeno erasing timeline statement nobody would even interpret Infinite Zamasu as Timeline Zamasu...
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Are you trolling now or...?
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This same Zamasu had his attack held back by Base Goku, Vegeta, and a tired out Ikari Trunks 
Even Shin solos IZ
Even Shin solos IZ
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Didn't even Gowasu created barrier and blocked one shot?This same Zamasu had his attack held back by Base Goku, Vegeta, and a tired out Ikari Trunks
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Zamasu: Hey ningens (Mortals), it's your god here Zamasu, and today watch as I pull off the biggest Prank in the history of the Multiverse, live on Godtube right here!!!!
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Dude, that scan is literally from the one used in his justifications for the eventual 5D rating. What the hell are you talking about?Where it's stated he is merging with timeline? Because I can give you a proof of him merging with universe. Even repeated twice.
Timeline was never mentioned. The only thing that may be interpreted as that is "affectting the present" which may mean absolutely everything.
I swear if not Zeno erasing timeline statement nobody would even interpret Infinite Zamasu as Timeline Zamasu...
"Low Multiverse level, eventually Low Complex Multiverse level (As stated by both Gowasu and Beerus, Zamasu in this state was becoming one with Universe 7 and the hypertimeline; overriding its law and order." You are arguing about something accepted, which you can... but like that's kinda weird and feels like you are just arguing with me to complain now?You are STILL not giving me any reasons WHY he wouldn't merge with the present timeline. You are constantly dodging my argument. What is this 'which may mean absolutely everything' here? You are being vague and trying to change the meaning of words without explaining anything.
You are saying he uses Time Rift, but HOW? Black did that via TIME RING. How did IZ have that? He is literally abstract, and his body is gone. He functionally cannot do that because Time Rift was closed, and he doesn't have that; otherwise, it would be mentioned in his profile. Make a CRT about that if you want, instead of arguing here because you are asserting your arguments as if they are the absolute truth.
Cool argument... ONLY if he didn't. But he did, and I don't care about what-if scenarios
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It is possible to go back in time only once. Goku Black was pulled back by the space-time warp and that same fold closed, and then it is said that he could not return, he could not go back to the past.
RoninSlayer200
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Fr.This same Zamasu had his attack held back by Base Goku, Vegeta, and a tired out Ikari Trunks
I was wrong, Robo... Zamasu didn't even merge with the Universe...
He fused with... Earth's ATMOSPHERE.
Cloud level IZ.
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respect gowasu buddy
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