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So, when we have the infinite Universe for DBS? I believe that Bulma is no longer a contradiction in anything related to the Universe
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RoninSlayer200
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Probably never
Nullflowerblush
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Primarily, Whis saying: "Time Control… What a surprise to see someone with the same ability as me."
From his perspective, he is stopping time when he fast-forwards, given he is (typically) granted free range of movement against his opponent for the duration of his Time-Skip. However, he obviously does not stop time against Goku, considering that; even though his fully powered Time-Skip worked on God Goku, Goku was still capable of transforming into SSB; time is not frozen when he time-skips, he simply moves ahead of the actions of others as they naturally advance.
Hit's Battle Power limitations are not explicitly declared, but nothing ever suggests they do not exist.
- Goku outpredicts his 0.1-second-long Time-Skip.
- Hit "advanced himself" and developed a 0.2 and then 0.5-second-long Time-Skip, which successfully affected Goku.
- He began unlocking his full potential throughout the fight explicitly like Saiyans can.
- Goku powered up via Kaio-ken x10 and successfully outpredicted Hit's Time-Skip again.
- Hit advances himself further and becomes stronger, lengthening his Time-Skip even further, allowing him to evade Goku's Kamehameha.
Simply because he has not demonstrated any of the abilities on-page—y'know, because the manga version of the Tournament of Power was not interested in characters not named Goku, Jiren, or Vegeta (barely)—does not mean he does not possess them, nor does it mean he does not have the potential to develop them.
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In the anime, i also remember Whis saying almost the same thing
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Using the manga to explain an ability in the anime despite that ability having far more numerous applications and their two being different canons is..... something alright
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A storm would be approaching very soon
Fezzih_007
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At the same time we get 5D super Goku.
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finally mr Satan 5D
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theres not really a reason why they wouldn't but there might be some people doing sum about it
Ruphas_Mafahl123
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Beerus is an unlimited moving goalpost.
Goku will never surpass him, till the last DBS arc atleast...and seeing how this legal shit is progressing, that will probably never happen
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Can you imagine Goku sola verses using only 5D punches?
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Hyperbole and fallacies
Nullflowerblush
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Argument from ignorance.
And, also, they are not "different canons". They exist within different continuities, but they share a worldview built off of the original story, Toriyama's Galactic Patrol saga, and Toriyama's general plot outlines for DBS; and their interpretations and development of the worldview both diverge (e.g., SSGSS, Immortality) and directly intersect (e.g., Broly, the High School Saga, Jaco the Galactic Patrolman) at various points. There are both minor and major differences between the two continuities's depiction of their worldviews, but they ultimately inform one another at points that lack contradiction.
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Ultra Ego, which grants power with no upper limit, is described as being "driven by instinct" (本能に突き動かされて). Legendary Super Saiyan, which grants an endlessly increasing Ki, is described as "living purely by instinct" (本能のままに生きる).
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Ah yes, the ultimate power--Rabies.
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Beerus is the most upgraded character in Dragon Ball.
considering the % of power he used against Goku in the movie, Super Saiyan Blue should be much stronger than him
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How did the Pretty Black Hole even disable Goku's Instant Transmission?
XSOULOFCINDERX
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No idea considering it's Teleportation, not travel speed.
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I think the pretty black hole simply put too much strain that it prevented Goku from focusing on someone to instant transmission to.
Nullflowerblush
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He could sense others outside of the Pretty Black Hole, though, because he could teleport, simply not to outside of its area of effect. Could possibly be because space-time within its area of effect is being warped by the intense gravity. Or even because the Pretty Black Hole warps energy, preventing Goku's Spirit from being relocated.
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And poetry
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Also Symbolism
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I was thinking, could Cell become Oozaru? He has cells from the Z warriors, which also includes Saiyans like Vegeta and Goku.
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Infinite Zamasu: A dreadful upgrade
Hello, this CRT will aim to upgrade Infinite Zamasu to Low 1-C. Before we start, I want to make something clear, these are new arguments going over all the statements and narrative behind why we believe these ratings to be true, so I recommended going into this with an open mind before just...
Wouldn't this allow us to backscale the low 1-C rating to Vegito?
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Probably, redundant to add to his profile tho imo
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Anyone around regular Jiren's level of power should scale to Infinite Zamasu, that's what we used to do back in the good 'oll 3-A DBS days.Infinite Zamasu: A dreadful upgrade
Hello, this CRT will aim to upgrade Infinite Zamasu to Low 1-C. Before we start, I want to make something clear, these are new arguments going over all the statements and narrative behind why we believe these ratings to be true, so I recommended going into this with an open mind before just...vsbattles.com
Wouldn't this allow us to backscale the low 1-C rating to Vegito?
Nullflowerblush
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The power of the Great Ape is sealed inside of a Saiyan's tail. Cell does not have a Saiyan's tail; a Saiyan's tail is a channel for Blutz Waves, whereas Cell's tail is a terminal for Bioenergy.
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I don't even have any thoughts about it
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The cell has a tail
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Next crt Jiren above Zamasu being low 1-C
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It's 2-C DBS all over again.
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I don't think there will be a downgrade from the low 1-C of the hyper timeline to 2-C, i'd be fine if my infinite Zamasu got 5D and low 1-C in AP, but Jiren climbing with those lines that have more energy than all the other enemies seems a bit daring.
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The only thing missing is infinite speed to match Goku low 1-C
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