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But he's not the one you asked to count
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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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Hasty12345
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Doesn't matter.But he's not the one you asked to count
StarShooter80
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uh um uh hmmm.. one....... uhhhhh three? shoot man..
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That sounds self contradictory, its like saying a Apple tree can have no apples...and still be a Apple tree
Hasty12345
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I hate to break it to you, but the quality of being an "apple tree" is not predicated on having apples.
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Y’all gotta start fact checking Null, because there’s no way y’all let him gaslight y’all into thinking there’s only 4032 planets in DB. That dude just says stuff.
Although, yeah that’s true that an infinite universe can have a finite number of planets, but just highly not the case here in DB
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Are you saying Null knows nothing about DBZ?Y’all gotta start fact checking Null, because there’s no way y’all let him gaslight y’all into thinking there’s only 4032 planets in DB. That dude just says stuff.
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Noting contradictory with that. You are able to list infinite and not all things be infinite within it.
The number of odd numbers is infinite, so is the number of even numbers. If you have a list of all odd numbers and 5 even numbers, this doesn't make that list less infinite.
So yes, you can have an infinite universe with only stars, or only planets, only gas, or maybe nothing at all.
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No? I just said to not believe everything he says blindly. He clearly knows a lot about DBZ, but I’m merely saying to not believe everything without fact-checking it, especially something absurd like that.
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“That sounds self contradictory,” proceeds to compare it to non contradictory thing
MountainWine
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It’s believed/theorized by many reputable (Newton, Tesla, Cox, Digges, & Einstein for a period of time) in the scientific community that our universe is possibly/likely infinite. It’s entirely possible our universe is infinite in size but has finite planets. Shoot, our universe probably had no planets at the beginning of it’s birth.
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at least in my mind It made sense...but then It didn't
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Don't worry, 4000 planets with countless galaxies is crazy af.
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sounds like there is just so many galaxies that you will die before counting them
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Guys
In sdbh we have infinite timeline, while in main canon we only have 5 timeline.
This Isn't Contradiction for a composite cosmology?
As far i know, main canon is treated as canon to sdbh in term of cosmology
In sdbh we have infinite timeline, while in main canon we only have 5 timeline.
This Isn't Contradiction for a composite cosmology?
As far i know, main canon is treated as canon to sdbh in term of cosmology
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In fact, if that is a tremendous contradiction, in addition to the fact that we would have to forget that time travel is SPECIFICALLY prohibited (if timelines are infinite...why is time travel prohibited?to the point that is even a crime)
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Dragon Ball Super (specifically the anime) is canon to Super Dragon Ball Heroes, but it's not the other way around either. So it's not a contradiction and more like Heroes has a vastly bigger cosmology than canon Dragon Ball's cosmology.
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Because time travel in Dragon Ball creates changes in history, which has the potential to cause disruptions in the flow of time and is the reason why gods like Chronoa and Beerus gave Trunks shit for unlawful time travel. So it has nothing to do with the amount of timelines in history, but how reckless time travel can mess things up.
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but if there is infinite timelines, it means people are constantly time traveling anyway, like, you know...infinity?
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I mean... there are like, 20+ more proof of infinite timelines, in this sense, SDBH just retconed that information into not being valid any longer in that continuity
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Hence why it's Chronoa's job as the Supreme Kai of Time to watch over the flow of time and prevent any unlawful tampering, and why the Time Patrol work under her to stop people from messing with time.
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Just because we know there are 5 timelines doesn't mean the canon cosmology only have a fixed number of 5 timelines, we don't even know how many timelines canon have, the verse never directly stated: hey Canon have and can only have 5 timelines
Also, SDBH have infinite timelines isn't contradicted either, like @The_Unknown_Warrior1 said, Canon materials are canon to SDBH, but not the other way around
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Now this seems like we are going into the realm of theories
Nullflowerblush
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All of the infinite number of alternate worlds out there just happen to conveniently not have Time Rings attached to them.
Wonder_of_Fantasy
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Felt it appropriate to share this here, for knowledgeable members who may be interested;
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Tier 2 Verse Power Index
Tired of searching for Tier 2+ verses that are within a relative range to another's scaling? Well, look no further. The purpose of this thread is to act as a community curated catalog for Tier 2+ verses on this wiki. Other important feats that are relevant to scaling, such as layers, hax, speed...
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tier 2
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None, it doesn't have the aspects to give itself a tier
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Many?
People talk about the 5 timelines, but that's the timeline we visualize.
Silver ring (our timeline) and green rings (timelines created from time travel in the silver one).
But these green ring timelines themselves can have their own silver rings (in reverence to their timeline) and have their own green rings.
The timeline we visualize is like this, it's not the original, the first one, it's a branch, of a branch of a branch of another timeline. So it's basically a green timeline of another timeline and it has its own silver ring.
Nullflowerblush
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I don't understand.
By the time Zamasu is erased by Beerus, only six total Time Rings exist; the Rings represent the DB World, Black's DB World, Future Trunks's world, Cell's world, the alternate past world from which the Future Trunks of Cell's world retrieved the blueprints for the Androids, and the parallel world created by the Universe 12 Time Machine. Only the parallel world created by the Universe 12 Time Machine is branched off from the DB World, represented by the silver Ring, yet all of the additional rings are green. In fact, the DB World itself is branched off from Black's DB World, which itself is branched off from Future Trunks's world, yet the DB World is the silver Ring.
In fact, even within Future Trunks's world, the world from which Future Zamasu originates, the Shin of the present world's Time Ring is silver colored, Future Zamasu's Time Ring is green colored, and the box of Time Rings of the future world is identical to the box of Time Rings of the DB World, even including the silver colored Time Ring being in the place of the DB World's Time Ring.
Evidently, the Time Rings do not represent relationships between parallel worlds, they represent all of the Time Rings, the Time Ring linked to Future Trunks's world is always green, and the Time Ring linked to the DB World is always silver. Or, maybe not, considering that, in the Super manga, the Time Rings are all without shading (possibly because the color green is left unshaded), and their color is never mentioned, unlike in the Super anime; in the manga, they could all be silver.
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I'm talking more about the anime. It's hard to talk about DB with so many continuities.
Goku Black uses a silver ring despite being from another timeline (different from the one we follow)
The timeline we follow has a silver ring despite being a branch of several previous timelines. (in other words, it's possibly a green ring timeline from a previous timeline)
That's how I understood it in the anime (because counting the number of timelines we "saw being created" I think it's 7, which doesn't fit into the 5)
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Nullflowerblush
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Kakarot's Main Story heavily implies that, after three years of training, Gohan and Piccolo at, at the very least, more powerful than Frieza, which is further supported by the warning Piccolo gave the Z-Fighters; why involve themselves in a battle with an opponent stronger than Frieza if they, themselves, are not stronger than Frieza?
Ruphas_Mafahl123
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Is it true Cell in the Anime had Gohan's DNA, besides Tien's and Yamcha's?
Ruphas_Mafahl123
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Nah, having DNA from Saiyan Hybrids would've given him much more potential actually
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