All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[Jinsama]

Boys and girls ....

While im not up to date with the whole dragonball situation and everyone wants a piece of that ... I know some wont like it but both the anime and the manga will reference Daima 1000000%

Anyway ... my gut tells me they left it open for Daima season 2 or whatever they have planned. Oh and the ending was a classic Toriyama gag

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Imagine Goku in the next arc uses SSJ4 to defeat Black Frieza

Beerus: Why didn't you use such a strong form to fight me if you had it?!
Goku: I just forgot it existed lol

Truly a Goku moment

 

[BlastX]

except that he didn't make the most stupid ones, yes, he used the super saiyan grade 3 against Cell, which prevented him from fighting because he had no speed, but, it was in a desesperated attempt to fight Cell, so it is understandable...on other hand, EVERYONE CONTRIBUTED TO CELL ALMOST WINNING

I was talking about holding back to not hurt Vegeta's pride.

 

[Huesito88]

Imagine Goku in the next arc uses SSJ4 to defeat Black Frieza

Truly a Goku moment

Yes Goku was always like is m8

 

[Alexander]

I was talking about holding back to not hurt Vegeta's pride.

Let's be honest, if the world has to go to hell because of someone's pride, then **** that person pride

 

[BlastX]

On retrospect it's kinda ironically funny that SSJ4 and Ultra Vegeta 1 break canon when in the grand scheme of things it doesn't change anything, Goku and Vegeta would have still be clowned by Beerus and they would have moved on to the God forms, leaving those transformations behind.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Imagine Goku in the next arc uses SSJ4 to defeat Black Frieza

Right, because Super Saiyan 4 is the answer; even though he possesses Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan God enhanced by Ultra Instinct (technique), Super Saiyan Blue, Completed Super Saiyan Blue, Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken, Ultra Instinct -Sign-, Ultra Instinct -Sign- (Powerhouse), True Ultra Instinct, Ultra Instinct (transformation), and Ultra Instinct (Giant Form).

 

[Alexander]

Right, because Super Saiyan 4 is the answer; even though he possesses Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan God enhanced by Ultra Instinct (technique), Super Saiyan Blue, Completed Super Saiyan Blue, Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken, Ultra Instinct -Sign-, Ultra Instinct -Sign- (Powerhouse), True Ultra Instinct, Ultra Instinct (transformation), and Ultra Instinct (Giant Form).

A new transformation is going to be released, combining Super Saiyan 4 with Ultra Instinct... the only thing it will do is give it more power and it will not give it any truly remarkable special ability.

 

[Hiryu-Z]

Right, because Super Saiyan 4 is the answer; even though he possesses Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan God enhanced by Ultra Instinct (technique), Super Saiyan Blue, Completed Super Saiyan Blue, Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken, Ultra Instinct -Sign-, Ultra Instinct -Sign- (Powerhouse), True Ultra Instinct, Ultra Instinct (transformation), and Ultra Instinct (Giant Form).

Yes

 

[Tyranno223]

A new transformation is going to be released, combining Super Saiyan 4 with Ultra Instinct... the only thing it will do is give it more power and it will not give it any truly remarkable special ability.

This could always change, especially since we all know Toyotaro and SSJ5's relations, but UI has already been combined with every form Goku has in the DBS Manga and they all look exactly the same as usual.

UI only changes appearance with the actual UI forms, which is where UI works best.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I've always been in doubt, why does Whis say that the sum of the Universes is 13 and not 12?

 

[Tyranno223]

I've always been in doubt, why does Whis say that the sum of the Universes is 13 and not 12?

Each universe pair adds up to that number.
7+6 for example.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Each universe pair adds up to that number.
7+6 for example.

It really gave 13, i thought there was 1 more universe

 

[Hasty12345]

I've always been in doubt, why does Whis say that the sum of the Universes is 13 and not 12?

The universe pairs are the ones that add up to 13

1 and 12
2 and 11
3 and 10
And so on and so forth

 

[Alexander]

The universe pairs are the ones that add up to 13

1 and 12
2 and 11
3 and 10
And so on and so forth

now there are 18 universes?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

now there are 18 universes?

Were eighteen Universes. Then, they would have added up to nineteen; 1 and 18, 2 and 17, 3 and 16, 4 and 15, 5 and 14, 6 and 13, etc. The relationships shifted when the number changed.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

How ridiculous is it that, in the modern era of technology, high-quality Japanese scans of the original Dragon Ball manga are readily accessible in their entirety, in multiple formats and prints; but high-quality Japanese scans of the Dragon Ball Super manga, which is available both physically and digitally and produced in modern formats, are nigh-impossible to find?

 

[StarShooter80]

How ridiculous is it that, in the modern era of technology, high-quality Japanese scans of the original Dragon Ball manga are readily accessible in their entirety, in multiple formats and prints; but high-quality Japanese scans of the Dragon Ball Super manga, which is available both physically and digitally and produced in modern formats, are nigh-impossible to find?

For a popular japanese manga, the japanese is really hard to find

 

[Huesito88]

How ridiculous is it that, in the modern era of technology, high-quality Japanese scans of the original Dragon Ball manga are readily accessible in their entirety, in multiple formats and prints; but high-quality Japanese scans of the Dragon Ball Super manga, which is available both physically and digitally and produced in modern formats, are nigh-impossible to find?

Probably current Toei being hard on us with the new stuff

 

[StarShooter80]

Probably current Toei being hard on us with the new stuff

It's weird really, the original manga in full japanese is not that hard to find, but any japanese version of super is no-where to be seen. Like the only way to find it fully is by getting physical copies in japan

 

[Huesito88]

It's weird really, the original manga in full japanese is not that hard to find, but any japanese version of super is no-where to be seen. Like the only way to find it fully is by getting physical copies in japan

Like I said probably Toei going after people that post the raw Super Manga Stuff (It'd be easier to regulate new manga rather than old stuff already everywhere ready to download or ready to read raw)

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Y'know, one thing I noticed doing researching for my Divine Power project is that, in Toyotaro's Super manga, Super Saiyan God and the Gods of the Universe themselves are particularly lacking in aura. Whenever Goku or Vegeta enter Super Saiyan God, their aura does not explode; rather, nowadays, what explodes from their bodies is a shockwave—a blast of invisible energy, usually followed by a little twinkle around their figure. In the earlier chapters, they exhibited visible auras when in-flight or even when preparing for combat, but by the time of the "Future" Trunks Saga, the aura was all but completely removed. Even when charging blasts, they lack an aura. When Toppo began using his godly powers, his aura quickly disappeared. Hell, when Vegeta transformed into a Super Saiyan Blue against Moro on Namek, his aura was literally depicted as returning to his body. And, all throughout the big Gods of Destruction battle, they did not manifest a visible aura once. All of that is eerily consistent with how Chōzenshū 4 describes God Ki as 質の高いクリア or "clear, high-quality"; the energy of a god is literally clear or formless, meaning you cannot sense it whatsoever unless you are a god—cannot see it, cannot feel it, likely cannot hear it either. Only when a Super Saiyan God becomes a Super Saiyan does their energy erupt, causing a leakage, which Goku and Vegeta have since corrected.

 

[Hasty12345]

Now the Neutral space has an element of time as Hit was able to use his Time-Skip there<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:TheGodOfICE777/Dragon_Ball_Explanation_Page#cite_note-34">[32]</a>. This acts as an in-between axis of time for the hypertimeline which also acts as a sideways level of time perpendicular to the macrocosms which is why you can destroy the individual macrocosms and their temporal origin without wrecking the others.

Doesn't this make the hyper timeline 6D since it supersedes the sideways time of the neutral zone?

 

[Killerdrone123]

Now the Neutral space has an element of time as Hit was able to use his Time-Skip there<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:TheGodOfICE777/Dragon_Ball_Explanation_Page#cite_note-34">[32]</a>. This acts as an in-between axis of time for the hypertimeline which also acts as a sideways level of time perpendicular to the macrocosms which is why you can destroy the individual macrocosms and their temporal origin without wrecking the others.

Doesn't this make the hyper timeline 6D since it supersedes the sideways time of the neutral zone?

No the thing is neutral zone is the sideways level of time for timeline,the hypertimeline/higher dimension of time is the one which contains this both I think this was the reasoning which qaw gave in my thread iirc

 

[Hasty12345]

No the thing is neutral zone is the sideways level of time for timeline,the hypertimeline/higher dimension of time is the one which contains this both I think this was the reasoning which qaw gave in my thread iirc

I'm still a bit confused so let me ask a different way, do the snapshots of the hyper timeline include the sideways time?

 

[Killerdrone123]

I'm still a bit confused so let me ask a different way, do the snapshots of the hyper timeline include the sideways time?

Yes

 

[Hasty12345]

Yes

Then I do think it should be 6D since time is by default uncountably infinite snapshots of the lower dimensions unlike vague “higher dimensions” but that’s just me.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Then I do think it should be 6D since time is by default uncountably infinite snapshots of the lower dimensions unlike vague “higher dimensions” but that’s just me.

There is also a part in profectus blog which explains this relation if you want to check that out for better understanding https://media.**********.net/attachments/1279848532378914929/1346051533204357163/image0.jpg?ex=67c6c7ad&is=67c5762d&hm=904b8df07d3fd665605b128aebb0f76f47d52018f7325b7b5ca9a0e1cd661616&

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Now the Neutral space has an element of time as Hit was able to use his Time-Skip there<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:TheGodOfICE777/Dragon_Ball_Explanation_Page#cite_note-34">[32]</a>. This acts as an in-between axis of time for the hypertimeline which also acts as a sideways level of time perpendicular to the macrocosms which is why you can destroy the individual macrocosms and their temporal origin without wrecking the others.

Doesn't this make the hyper timeline 6D since it supersedes the sideways time of the neutral zone?

With this i think it is possible to elaborate 6D via the void between lines that encompasses all timelines.

 

[Alexander]

I still think cookie clicker does It better, in terms of time complexity because, It actually tries to make It say stuff.
Not like dragon ball, which all of you are just assuming things

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Yet, miraculously, all of those "assumptions" seem to line up pretty well with the standards of the tiering system.

It's pretty strange, isn't it?

 

[Hasty12345]

Who’s going to tell him Sonic uses 3 hyper timelines?

 

[Alexander]

Who’s going to tell him Sonic uses 3 hyper timelines?

Who IS going to tell you that i ******* HATE HYPERTIMELINES

 

[Alexander]

Yet, miraculously, all of those "assumptions" seem to line up pretty well with the standards of the tiering system.

It's pretty strange, isn't it?

that seems like a Big manipulation of the tiering system in my part, to be honest...no wait, It IS basically that.
Even then the logic does not even ad up

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

that seems like a Big manipulation of the tiering system in my part, to be honest...no wait, It IS basically that

Well then I look forward to your CRT which changes the standards of the tiering system and downgrades Dragon Ball as a result.

But until then, you can cope and seethe all about it as much as you wish.

 

[StarShooter80]

that seems like a Big manipulation of the tiering system in my part, to be honest...no wait, It IS basically that.
Even then the logic does not even ad up

Why are you starting the same discussion again, this exact convo happened a few months ago or so

 

[Alexander]

Well then I look forward to your CRT which changes the standards of the tiering system and downgrades Dragon Ball as a result.

But until then, you can cope and seethe all about it as much as you wish.

you know i Will never do It, so just laugh about it in whatever you are using in whatever you are in

 

[Alexander]

Why are you starting the same discussion again, this exact convo happened a few months ago or so

Because they being the same thing i hate again?

 

[Fezzih_007]

that seems like a Big manipulation of the tiering system in my part,

In your part?

Why are you starting the same discussion again, this exact convo happened a few months ago or so

you know i Will never do It, so just laugh about it in whatever you are using in whatever you are in

Alexander is just trying to bait people for a reaction, is better to ignore him when he does that.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

you know i Will never do It, so just laugh about it in whatever you are using in whatever you are in

So you're going to complain about the usage of hypertimelines in the tiering system, but you're not going to do anything to address your complaints and change the standards? Then, with all due respect, you shouldn't complain about anything.