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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

1. In fact it does matter, because again, just because it is an ability made by ki does not mean that it is something as related to power, it would be like shunkanido, it is not related to speed, or the mafuuba, or the time stop ability from guldo.
That’s irrelevant to the point. Yes, that’s true, but it doesn’t matter because it explicitly is just Vice Shout but BIGGER. And Vice Shout explicitly is SOLELY a power thing.
I don't know, somehow Goku in Super Saiyan 3 is more powerful than HIS SON, who was said to have surpassed him in Power after unlocking his mystical state?
Ask Toei? They’re the ones who made him beat Ultimate Gohan without even using his max, and then fight a stronger Buu.
 
No it does not, Buu's thing was done with his own Ki. He was breaking/affecting the dimensional walls of the universe on a 4-D level, you need like tier 2 energy output to do that regardless, becouse affecting it does count aswell. Thats AP, the people that say it doesn't scale to Buu's stats either do not know how Ki works or didnt watch Dragon Ball Z properly
Facts, it's the same as the Kamehameha that the guys are using as a context to downgrade.
 
Except it gets supported multiple times.

Well, it makes it worse because they constantly put up with inconsistency, if a character has blue hair, and then they tell me it's green (for no reason) and they constantly tell me it's true, I'm left with a face like "what nonsense is this?"
Goku then fought and matched a perfect copy of him in just Base-SSJ, while nerfed to 1/100th of his true strength.

You mean Buuhan? When Goku didn't fight Buuhan because he was clearly going to lose?
contradiction.

In the Manga he is the most dangerous, but not the strongest. In the Anime, a separate continuity, they explicitly state Kid Buu is the most powerful Buu. Repeatedly. Goku, Vegeta, the Narrator—They’re all saying the same thing. Genuinely just is different.
CONTRADICTION
like, Buu lost all of his power, and got turned back to a more primordial self, and somehow, that makes him stronger?MAGICALLY???
 
Facts, it's the same as the Kamehameha that the guys are using as a context to downgrade.
No, the kamehameha is completely different from using a ki distortion (space-time manipulation) to break dimensions (god knows what they are, the time chambers? hell and the afterlife?)
 
I would buy Kid Buu to be stronger, if this were a series where you get stronger for existing (I'm looking at you, Sonic the hedgehog) but here in this series, you don't get stronger for existing, they have to, yes or yes, train to become stronger (or become extremely angry).
 
Well, it makes it worse because they constantly put up with inconsistency, if a character has blue hair, and then they tell me it's green (for no reason) and they constantly tell me it's true, I'm left with a face like "what nonsense is this?"
I mean, DBS Trunks happened.
You mean Buuhan? When Goku didn't fight Buuhan because he was clearly going to lose?
No. In one of the Inside Buu episodes, Goku fights a Gohan Thought-Form made by Buu that is explicitly stated to be equal to the original. Meanwhile, the TV Daizenshuu states that Goku and Vegeta were at 1/100th their original power inside Buu. Meaning Base-SSJ Goku at 1/100th = Ultimate Gohan. In Toei.
contradiction.
No? Nothing contradicts this except the fact it’s not a feature in the Manga…which no one claims it is.
CONTRADICTION
like, Buu lost all of his power, and got turned back to a more primordial self, and somehow, that makes him stronger?MAGICALLY???
According to Toei.
 
Seriously this people indeed do not know how Ki works. They call themselves "DB Fans" when they are constantly downplaying the series due to some nonsensical misterpretations
I'm not a DB fan, I never said I was a DB fan, didn't you notice that I'm clearly not a DB fan?
 
I mean, DBS Trunks happened.
He has the excuse that he lives in a constantly shitty world and has to constantly train and get stronger.
No. In one of the Inside Buu episodes, Goku fights a Gohan Thought-Form made by Buu that is explicitly stated to be equal to the original. Meanwhile, the TV Daizenshuu states that Goku and Vegeta were at 1/100th their original power inside Buu. Meaning Base-SSJ Goku at 1/100th = Ultimate Gohan. In Toei.
that makes even less sense
No? Nothing contradicts this except the fact it’s not a feature in the Manga…which no one claims it is.
Manga>anime
According to Toei.
do you think i care about what Toei thinks?
 
yes, and how it is even similar to the shouting?
Because you focus your energy to distort space-time, this is another one of the characters' energy-based abilities, the more ki you have the more destructive power you have and the same can be said for speed

In other words, you are forcing your energy to do that feat, which was causing the collapse of the dimensions.
 
do you think i care about what Toei thinks?
Do you think Toei cares abou what you think either? they are the writers, the producers, etc. They own the series, if they say something it's like this but doesn't make sense, it doesn't matter, the thing remains true even if it appears like an incosistency from outside. The opinion from random men on internet forums doesn't hold a candle to them
 
Because you focus your energy to distort space-time, this is another one of the characters' energy-based abilities, the more ki you have the more destructive power you have and the same can be said for speed

In other words, you are forcing your energy to do that feat, which was causing the collapse of the dimensions.
space-time manipulation
 
Do you think Toei cares abou what you think either? they are the writers, the producers, etc. They own the series, if they say something it's like this but doesn't make sense, it doesn't matter, the thing remains true even if it appears like an incosistency from outside. The opinion from random men on internet forums doesn't hold a candle for them
neither for you to them sadly
 
No, the kamehameha is completely different from using a ki distortion (space-time manipulation) to break dimensions (god knows what they are, the time chambers? hell and the afterlife?)
Again, Vice Shout is explicitly power based.



And Outside Space is just Vice Shout but bigger.

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Furthermore, it’s repeatedly stated to be Buu’s raw power. It’s not debatable.
 
Because Vegito and the narrator. The fact that Vegito told Buu to hit him with the power he used to nearly destroy the universe should be a open and close case that this was all through Buu's power and he can use it physically.

But by all means: explain why this still doesn't count.
all blank images, and maybe he changed the ki of the attack to just hit Vegeto and not make a space-manipulation thing
 
You guys do know Alexander is cleary trolling now, right?

Like, If the poor made responses are not enough, atleast see how cringe his acting.
maybe i am trolling, maybe i am serious, maybe time is a circle and repeats itself, but who knows the answers to that?
 
You guys do know Alexander is cleary trolling now, right?

Like, If the poor made responses are not enough, atleast see how cringe his acting.
He’s the same guy who genuinely thinks Hypertimelines of any kind can’t be found in other stories because the term’s popular use in stories was generated by DC Comics. I can’t tell what’s trolling and what isn’t at this point.
 
And somehow I have to accept the inconsistency that is sent? Because if it were that easy, I would have let DC have all its continuities together (this is not against you)
In a way, yes. If writers accept it that way, fans coming up with their unofficial conclusions leads to a fanficiton narrative
 
He’s the same guy who genuinely thinks Hypertimelines of any kind can’t be found in other stories because the term’s popular use in stories was generated by DC Comics. I can’t tell what’s trolling and what isn’t at this point.
no, i was very serious about that, i am still very serious about that.
 
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