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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

It’s still so crazy to me that with no Ki, while unconscious, cut in half, and with an extra near quarter of his body blasted away, (leaving naught but his chest, an arm, and half a face), he was able to tank a planet exploding on his face. And in Toei that explosion was so large the light it generated enveloped the whole galaxy.

And he STILL LIVED (albeit on death’s door) drifting throughout the cosmos. Dude is NOT built the same.
Absolutely insane.
 
Mind you, he does this, gets stronger, and then gets vaporized by Trunks the next time he appears within the manga like chapters later. Toriyama literally looked at this awe inspiring antagonist (and with the advent of Trunks and his doomed future, the Super Saiyan transformation of Legend), he built up over countless weeks and months and decided to make it obsolete immediately. He legitimately had the most unpredictable writing style there was at the time.
 
Mind you, he does this, gets stronger, and then gets vaporized by Trunks the next time he appears within the manga like chapters later. Toriyama literally looked at this awe inspiring antagonist (and with the advent of Trunks and his doomed future, the Super Saiyan transformation of Legend), he built up over countless weeks and months and decided to make it obsolete immediately. He legitimately had the most unpredictable style there was at the time.
I can't wait for the characters to be mentioned destroying the characters at an atomic level or something similar and for it to be accepted on this wiki.
 
Hax and not just what this Wiki accepts, o find it embarrassing to do this instead of giving atomic manipulation to the characters.
 
One thing I liked that Raging Blast changed that sadly Sparking Zero reverted is making Super Kamehameha as a regular super attack relegated to only SSJ3 Goku.

Because it doesn't make sense his SSJ from can use it as a super attack but gets relegated as an Ultimate Attack as a SSJ2 while that form has to use basic Kamehameha as a super attack.
 
If the space that contains the multiverses is stated to be infinite. Would that bump db cosmo to 2A?
Case 1 uni is infite
Case 2 they are finite.

No hypertimelines 😓
 
If it's infinite it would be 2A yea, it's shown that the 2C universes don't fill up the entire space, it being infinite would mean it would have a volume the could contain a infinite amount of said universes, which actually could be 2x baseline 2A for dbs as they have 2 low2c spacetimes in each universe and 3x baseline for toei, since each macrocosm has 3 low2c spacetimes
 
Huh, just realized it, if Ultima's plan is to make space time feats Low 2-C independent of size, wouldn't that happens for Low 1-C and above as well since it follows the same logic?
Not necessary, in relation to Low 2-C it would be a full rating due to the fourth-dimension being temporal. If it is 4 dimensions of space + one of time you would still need to prove that the fourth-dimension of space is of significant size

That´s at least what i understood
 
So according to what I read, it is a review where the size of space, even if it is a planet, does have a time axis.

es 4D would qualify for low 2c.

It is only important for only those who have their own time axes confirmed true.

or also for space-time that share axes?

since a temporal axis can encompass multiple space-times

It's better to wait and see what happens
 
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He’s referring to how a time axis would make that 3D space infinite by default. So higher spaces wouldn’t be affected by this. (Unfortunately)
also other spaces if they have time, Time Creates snapshots regardless, of course, unless the space is actually timeless......for some reason
 
Huh, just realized it, if Ultima's plan is to make space time feats Low 2-C independent of size, wouldn't that happens for Low 1-C and above as well since it follows the same logic?
How would this affect our scaling for the macrocosm?

Like that'd make the time chamber's low 2-C
 
Just opened Jiren´s profile and saw this note:
  1. Due to the vast amount of inconsistencies between various feats, statements, and information given about Time Skip, such as the mechanics explained by Vados and Whis, (that it is merely limited Time Travel that stores time) being directly contradicted on multiple occasions, including feats like freezing Goku in time (twice), Hit's own words, and Word of God, or what even qualifies as Time Skip, as Tides of Time (Hit's Dimension-Shift) was initially stated not to be, but this was contradicted later in the Tournament of Power, or regarding how Time Skip has a reliant Dimension connected to it for Time Storage contradicts Hit's testimony regarding how he never made Time Skip do more than its initial basic function before, (and the basic mechanics, as he needs to skip time first to then store it, contradicting even that description), etc. has created a patchwork of incoherence. Due to this, and how the Time Freezing and Travelling related parts of the ability must both be simultaneously true for the plot of the Dragon Ball Super Anime to make sense (as Vados/Whis explanation is the sole reason he has his greater Time Dimension abilities thoughout the Assassination Arc and the Tournament of Power, and he needs the abilities to also specifically be Time Stop for certain major plot sequences, like Time Cage, {a Time Stop ability which is explicitly described as "Time Skip in Reverse"} to affect Jiren), as well as the fact they are used interchangeably at several points, our community has decided to index the ability as both Time Travel and Time Stop, and to simply reconcile the best we can by ignoring these glaring contradictions to get the most accurate listing of Hit's ability. As such, Jiren's ability to get around these abilities will be indexed as they would be if this inconsistency did not exist. This includes resisting both time travel and stop.

Reminds me of this:
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