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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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......you can't resist someone time traveling tho?.........man, how does that make any sense?
Fezzih_007
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Is simple.
If someone time travels to the future, and you go with them, you're resistancing the ffect of staying in the past.
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no, if you time travel alongside them you either have time travel of your own to intercept them or Immearuable speed for the same effect......also Hit only travels to the future, not the past, and even then that would be Acausality type 1, event THEN it wouldn't apply to DB since traveling to the past doesn't change the future
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I imagine it's much like resisting BFR. Someone tries to force teleport you, doesn't work. Except in this case temporally.
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Oh wait he thinks it's supposed to be resisting Hit traveling through time. No, it's resisting Time Cage, which is "Time Skip in reverse." Time Skip being currently indexed as time travel and time stop. So in this case he's legit just resisting someone trying to force him through time.
Fezzih_007
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Not really, If someone time travels, and you can follow them or intercepts then, that means you can resist the effects of someone sending you to the future.
Like, someone go to the future, that means leaving the past behind, and you can tag them while they going to the future. That means you're resisting the effects of the time travel.
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Er, no, that means you're just time traveling to follow them. Or you're punching to the future, which isn't resisting time travel, but range-
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although in this case hit does not send you to the future, and only hit is the one that travels to the future.
well it doesn't matter and Idk
well it doesn't matter and Idk
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.........that would be resistance to BFR, even then that doesn't apply here as Hit goes alone to the future
no, that means you yourself is Time Traveling to follow them, you are not resisting anything as there is absolutely nothing to resist in the first place
that would be resisting BFR, not Hit time traveling
"in reverse" aka the oposite of advancing time is to make it not move at all
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No, since in this scenario you don't have the ability to time travel, so you need to resist.
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i don't think you understand, in the scenarion you describe, one would have the ability to Time Travel, without that the scenario you described makes no sense
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That's what i said, one character have a time travel ability, and the other don't.
Les't me explain better.
Person A can go to the future. Person B can't do that. If Person A goes to the future, and Person B is able to follows then even without the ability to time travel, they either have Immerasuble speed, or can powernull the ability of time travel of the other character. And no, you would't need speed to do that.
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as i said, in the situation you are describing, the other must also be able to time travel, else the situation you described makes no sense
which would mean that they do have the ability to Time Travel as that is the most standard thing about Immeasurable speed, meaning that they would be able to time travel
no because person A is still time traveling in the scenarion you described, that wasn't nulled, person B simply followed them
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No i mean, nulled the effects for themselfs.
Like, Person A time travels to the future, and Person B is unnafected by that.
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there is no effect on themselves, the things isn't even being used on them in the first place, unless you mean they aren't affect by the attack in the future? which would be Acausality and not power null
acausality you mean? also that isn't what Goku did, he followed Hit, he wasn't unnafected by his skip, he followed him to stop his from attacking in the first place
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Oh i see the problem.
I not talking about Goku and Hit. You said "you can't resist someone time traveling" which i disagree, since you totally can.
What Goku did is another discussion. Which is more easy to explain.
I not talking about Goku and Hit. You said "you can't resist someone time traveling" which i disagree, since you totally can.
What Goku did is another discussion. Which is more easy to explain.
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So I found it, but apparently it's a mistranslation of what Vados actually said.
She said Hit "is using Time Skip continually only on Jiren" (episode 111, 12:51, Sub) and the version I saw worded this as "Time Skip in reverse," (referring to the range of Time Skip, since Hit has inverted it from affecting everyone but himself to affecting a singular person not himself.)
Edit: The point remains regardless, though. All Time Prison is, is normal Time Skip, but locked onto a singular person in such a way that instead of reality being affected, they are. As Time Skip is indexed as both Time Stop and Travel, (and ignoring the narrative contradictions as accepted by thread), this means he's simply resisting both. Also, temporal BFR (forced time travel) is a thing. Check out Thor punching the World Serpent across time in GoW, or Aku throwing Jack through time in Samurai Jack. In this case, Jiren is resisting that.
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You know, it occurs to me. Both (Manga) Merged Zamasu and Anilaza warp space time and create portals through punching really ******* hard. Like, identically to Vice Shout, it's just raw force being outputted in a punch that on paper anyone can do, (since it's just a matter of strength). Why don't we index that for profiles like we do for Vice Shout?
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I know it is a thing, i mentioned in the post you are answering
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Firstly, Zamasu creates portals using supernatural powers.
Secondly, yes, Anilaza "パワーで空間をゆがめやがった" ("distorted space with his power"), but the Subspace Punch is described as "unbelievable" and "Quite a wonderful attack!" and is, appropriately, treated as a supernatural power by the Z-Fighters and the narrative, rather than merely a feat of strength any fighter can achieve.
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Back to the beginning
The new DBS map is just the Observed Living Universe, that's all, it doesn't contain all the other realms, so it shouldn't be accepted as being absolute for the macrocosm, because this map only represents the Observed Living Universe. Ah but Luffy how can you know that this map is just the...
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I suppose I misremembered this one. Fair enough.
Interesting. Makes sense to me.
This guy warps the WoV. This is literally considered space manip on his profile. On top of that, he should totally scale above the prior space manip feats in the series.
This guy transcends time. While it isn’t space, space and time are often connected and he should already upscale like Toppo.
These guys beat the other guys, and have their own space manip feats. Should upscale.
So I dunno if these examples work all that well, really, when they mostly already qualify and by all logic on paper could totally pull it off if they just directed and controlled their spatial nonsense. It’s part of why I asked to begin with.
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That's fair.
Nullflowerblush
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Hurts my heart everyday knowing that the only known HD scan of Jiya and Sachie-chan Guu!! has 0 seeders and 7 leechers.
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I'm almost like this because the guy who does the Brazilian translation of Dragon Ball Super has several lost DB media (or at least very difficult to find) at home (physical) and doesn't scan it for the rest of the fandom.
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This shit still not get removed????, is Hit using his Time Skip on me like Jiren for real??
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Supernatural powers = ki 
Nullflowerblush
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Where'd that come from, an Interval Special?
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Oh, well, that wasn't interesting.
"The Final Flash is an energy blast, and the Gamma Burst Flash is also an energy blast! Innit fun?"
"The Final Flash is an energy blast, and the Gamma Burst Flash is also an energy blast! Innit fun?"
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Although, what the article says about the manga's version of Jiren's Full Power is curious.
Apparently, he can wrap himself in his own power, and that grants him a boost? I'm not really sure what it's supposed to imply; if it's just an aura or if he's doing something unique (nothing really unique by releasing your Ki outward).
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What's that about?
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Nullflowerblush
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Oh, you meant the drug test.
It's pre-employment.
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