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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Hm, so the argument is that ki is stated to be a fundamental energy; humans are comprised of, and that it reflects off of the heart. It also being comprised of genki which is in all living things inanimate objects. Also, Toriyama stating ki as a concept includes genki, yuko, shoki.
iirc, God of War and God of High school have similar arguments, you should give this a read and see if there are any parallels

 
YES! EXACTLY MY GUY!

Early on into my playthrough World Mission and getting the taste of how utterly broken the CI gauge is, on top of the bosses' ability to near effortlessly break your stamina so you can't block damage and even TAKE more damage, I decided that I had to create builds which struck a balance between quelling the speed of CI based abilities and maintaining my stamina while still being able to do good damage. But did DD care about all that? **** no, it kept easily beating me and going at speeds so utterly fast that it makes light look like a snail by comparison.

I don't mind a game when it's challenging, because World Mission can be fun with the kind of card decks you can make, but there's a major difference between being challenging and artificially impossible.
If the bosses' CI were more balanced, more than half of my complaints with the game would be fixed.

I don't mind for a moment stopping playing with the cards I like to farm or face bosses, since it's a card game with a focus on builds, but the CI level of the bosses is so absurd that in addition to a team very specific that you have to have it, you have to be very lucky.

And relying on luck is annoying when it's a game where the matches are slow (choosing the team, module, using the module, passing each round, discarding the module, going back to the menu and returning to the level). It just gets annoying, especially when there is no 2x option for animations (like dokkan)
 
iirc, God of War and God of High school have similar arguments, you should give this a read and see if there are any parallels

I’ll probably ask a friend of mine if they think ki could qualify, and if not what more it’d need. Although, the fundamental energy statement coming from the anime might make people a bit nitpicky, but atleast DBH would be fine if it qualified.
 
I’ll probably ask a friend of mine if they think ki could qualify, and if not what more it’d need. Although, the fundamental energy statement coming from the anime might make people a bit nitpicky, but atleast DBH would be fine if it qualified.
energy can be such a context-dependent term, I can't see how it could be used as some sort of anti-feat
 
energy can be such a context-dependent term, I can't see how it could be used as some sort of anti-feat
People like to default that any energy is physical, honestly. I saw some pep off-site "debunk" Time Power have CM by saying it is energy
 
People like to default that any energy is physical, honestly. I saw some pep off-site "debunk" Time Power have CM by saying it is energy
you can go so far with that logic debunking so much if that's the route you want to take, or, you can have reading comprehension and realise energy doesn't have to refer to the physics definition or understand different verses have energies that aren't based on the physical.
 
Yeah, even without going to into abstract territory, we have multiple verses with famous term magical energy or spiritual energy, which never is physical in any mean. Sometime i just surprise at how desparate people are when they don't want something
 
energy can be such a context-dependent term, I can't see how it could be used as some sort of anti-feat
I didn’t mean it like that I meant the statement of it being fundamental is from the anime and I’m not aware of it being in the manga, so that could be a minor nitpick if we wanted to do this for canon. Although, toeiverse and dbh would probably be okay.
 
I didn’t mean it like that I meant the statement of it being fundamental is from the anime and I’m not aware of it being in the manga, so that could be a minor nitpick if we wanted to do this for canon. Although, toeiverse and dbh would probably be okay.
ahh my bad

so we composite cosmology, but to what extent are things cross scalable?
 
I didn’t mean it like that I meant the statement of it being fundamental is from the anime and I’m not aware of it being in the manga, so that could be a minor nitpick if we wanted to do this for canon. Although, toeiverse and dbh would probably be okay.
Ki is universal system which the entire DB verse based on, i can understand if it is game only thing, but i don't think you can apply that logic to anime and manga situation
 
Ki is universal system which the entire DB verse based on, i can understand if it is game only thing, but i don't think you can apply that logic to anime and manga situation
i mean yeah, but would it be the same between different universes by default tho? one must think of this kind of stuff when trying anything scaling between them, they are still different universes/continuities after all, even if they do share a multiverse
 
i mean yeah, but would it be the same between different universes by default tho? one must think of this kind of stuff when trying anything scaling between them, they are still different universes/continuities after all, even if they do share a multiverse
does Future Trunk's Ki function differently than Goku's?
 
Lmao we are all trying to give Ki concept manip and that one dude is just raging a out horribly balanced the Heros game is
What can I say? When a game has BS mechanics then I'm going to call it out, especially when it's intentionally designed and serves only to artificially increase the difficulty of the game by making the AI so unbelievably broken and lucky.

And I can't help it, you know? I broke a controller in my crusade from the rage I was experiencing, not really the mature thing to do but I was 17 when it came out so I was just stupid when I did it lol.
 
Isn't UI actually a useless technique, since base Goku will still be fodder to Black Frieza and the enemies to come?
 
bro, can time power get plot eraser and neg high godly narrative . Because in history there are arale that are resistant to the erasure narrative ?
 
does Future Trunk's Ki function differently than Goku's?
in his case, we are shown that it is the same, besides that Trunk's timeline is a direct connection to the main one, as it only exists due to changes in it, so it would be the same by default
 
ahh my bad

so we composite cosmology, but to what extent are things cross scalable?
Tbh it probably should be scaleable since it’s just the same system like how we would scale evil ki the same in xv2 and dbh. I was just being pessimistic. There’s no reason the function of ki would differ from 2 timelines. Otherwise, it’d be like arguing if we see something in Future Trunks’ timeline exclusive to ki we can’t use it for the main timeline.

Does the CM3 arguments only apply to DBH or is there something that could make it applicable in the manga/anime canon?
It’s from DBZ/DB manga and anime scans but in DBH it’s even more evident that DBS and Toeiverse both exist as separate timelines.
 
It was a while ago

Nah bro was delusional for that nothing wrong was done + I was one of the people who told him it doesn’t work like that
I have also argued why it works as such a couple months ago. I could also claim the opposition is delusional. Not to mention this blog that you are referring, was never stated nor intended to be part of a revision soon or in the future (this is simply my own blog), nor did I ever ask anyone about their opinion on that blog. So for it to be criticized for something it was never intended to do doesn't make sense.
Nah, i can at least understand if he argue for CM3, but hell no he need to includes game stuffs in, which could fly on other sites, but not on this wiki, honestly
This is the only blog that was intended for a future content revision for conceptual manipulation type 3 for those in canon db (whether it applies to games is irrelevant as this is not the intent) who has demonstrated the ability to affect the soul. There is no game content in that blog, because the basis for the conceptual manipulation type 3 has nothing to do with any game.
 
Everyone is a gangstar until Yamcha does dimensional domination.

Yeah, even without going to into abstract territory, we have multiple verses with famous term magical energy or spiritual energy, which never is physical in any mean. Sometime i just surprise at how desparate people are when they don't want something
Does Yamcha have Low 1-C scaling in SDBH? A profile of him would be interesting.

Because Yamcha 5D + Dimensional Domain would be really funny.
 
I have also argued why it works as such a couple months ago. I could also claim the opposition is delusional. Not to mention this blog that you are referring, was never stated nor intended to be part of a revision soon or in the future (this is simply my own blog), nor did I ever ask anyone about their opinion on that blog. So for it to be criticized for something it was never intended to do doesn't make sense.

This is the only blog that was intended for a future content revision for conceptual manipulation type 3 for those in canon db (whether it applies to games is irrelevant as this is not the intent) who has demonstrated the ability to affect the soul. There is no game content in that blog, because the basis for the conceptual manipulation type 3 has nothing to do with any game.
Here it is said that Trunks' gathered energy came from the thoughts of humans



 
DUDE. I JUST CAME BACK FROM SEEING MINUS ONE AND IT IS AMAZING!

Okay caps aside I think Minus One might be shaping up to become one of the best Godzilla movies of the entire franchise and it's already in my top five favorite Godzilla movies. What did you think though?
I just came back from watching it. A near perfect Godzilla movie. Loved everything about it especially the Atomic Breath.
 
Yeah no, CM 3 for Ki is completely nonsense, you might as well say that anything that is both mental and spiritual like Stands, Reiatsu or Bill Cipher's Mindscape form are abstract beings because of this supposed CM3. Concept Hax is about ideas that makes up existence in the way we know it, CM3 in this case is about concepts that are "lesser" as they do not make universal-scale ideas, but on a specific scale. Ki isn't even a concept, it's just energy that is both mental and spiritual, not a literal idea/information that characters can affect.
 
Yeah no, CM 3 for Ki is completely nonsense, you might as well say that anything that is both mental and spiritual like Stands, Reiatsu or Bill Cipher's Mindscape form are abstract beings because of this supposed CM3. Concept Hax is about ideas that makes up existence in the way we know it, CM3 in this case is about concepts that are "lesser" as they do not make universal-scale ideas, but on a specific scale. Ki isn't even a concept, it's just energy that is both mental and spiritual, not a literal idea/information that characters can affect.
Do you think GOW magic is a hax concept? General magic.
 
Everyone is a gangstar until Yamcha does dimensional domination.


Does Yamcha have Low 1-C scaling in SDBH? A profile of him would be interesting.

Because Yamcha 5D + Dimensional Domain would be really funny.
I think he briefly hold back a attack from DBH Cooler in the manga, who fought a lot of characters.
 
Guys, I was making a draft for Xeno Goku's "Notable Attacks/Techniques", as I wanted people to be able to have references and redirects to Xeno Goku's cards and their effects.

So I made this Sandbox.

This only passes for Super Dragon Ball Heroes World Mission, and even then it's missing a lot of cards. Furthermore, it seems that the game had updates that changed the names of several abilities and changed some of their effects, and the website I used did not update the card descriptions. So later I'll have to review everything but now with the game open.

But what do you think of this draft?
Now I added all the effects of the SSJ4 boss.

Now I'm only going to get this when I get all the cards in the game (there are 1300 or so and I have 500 or so) to update some names of skills and effects that the site didn't update along with the game.

Until then, I think you can use this sandbox to see some of the techniques that Goku xeno has (not all of them as it doesn't even cover all of his WM cards, as the site hasn't updated with the new cards)
 
What speed stat does Toei Goku when he fought Toei Cell before his match with Gohan scale to? I can't tell if they down scaled to what was the previous cosmology size or not?
 
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