All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[Mr.Cinos15]

Next arc will have the villain threaten the overarching timeline. Trust in the plan.

Cope

 

[Killerdrone123]

Better start the clock

You'd be hard-pressed to convince them that he used timeline level of potency EE 5o wipe out individual universes tho

Yea, She was downgraded after a thread upgrading Beerus resistance to her hax was about to pass. Not sure if she was downgraded based on the cosmology tho, if she was, then yea, shed scale

Fair point although zeno did say that he can do anything but I don't think that would be enough

 

[Phsccarvalho]

he can do anything

tier 0

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Okay, so now we have to deal with:

1. Inevitable downgrade CRT's.

2. Pein trying to change the standards.

3. Leftover/Incoming derailing.

At this point, if any more mods were to join and evaluate the CRT, they'd likely join the FRA train.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

tier 0

Tier 0 Dragon Ball when?

 

[Killerdrone123]

Okay, so now we have to deal with:

1. Inevitable downgrade CRT's.

2. Pein trying to change the standards.

3. Leftover/Incoming derailing.

At this point, if any more mods were to join and evaluate the CRT, they'd likely join the FRA train.

We might get a possible ddm vote

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

Okay, so now we have to deal with:

1. Inevitable downgrade CRT's.

2. Pein trying to change the standards.

3. Leftover/Incoming derailing.

At this point, if any more mods were to join and evaluate the CRT, they'd likely join the FRA train.

2 is the most likely outcome tbh

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

I really think DBH shouldn't escalate to anything from DB canon, although only material from games, mangas, and animes not being from the same multiverse, although I can see a shared cosmology, but the games are very different from canon cosmology, having infinite timelines and such.

Why wouldn't Heroes escalate to anything from DB canon? In DBH, DBS is one of the infinite timelines which exist in the multiverse and everything that happened in Super happened in the Heroes as well Albeit with some changes to make it different such as CC Goku and Vegeta having experienced the events of several movies but that's besides my point so if anything applies to canon DB then it's going to equally apply to Heroes.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

You and Reiner will have to deal with Pein if they try to change the standards.

At least Qaw follows the standards.

an argument based on copium will 99% fail

 

[Killerdrone123]

Dragon ball is getting to many w's first we got cm for dbh then xeno goku stomped rimuru and now this

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Dragon ball is getting to many w's first we got cm for dbh then xeno goku stomped rimuru and now this

passive 4D(5D if this tier 1 crt passes) hax plot for DBH and then we will reach the peak.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Like generally speaking, this year has been a massive W for DB power scaling (in this site at least). Like prior to this year we were still stuck with Low 2-C DB.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

For real though… I love how they called Qawsedf over all haughtily hoping he’d be their linchpin for starting up a “disagree FRA” train again, only for him to provide that last necessary agree.

The rarest of Dragon Ball wins.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Why wouldn't Heroes escalate to anything from DB canon? In DBH, DBS is one of the infinite timelines which exist in the multiverse and everything that happened in Super happened in the Heroes as well Albeit with some changes to make it different such as CC Goku and Vegeta having experienced the events of several movies but that's besides my point so if anything applies to canon DB then it's going to equally apply to Heroes.

Nothing applies to the canon and it stays that way, practically DBH is from another reality, the entire story is changed, including the characters, in fact there are some similarities, but there are few.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

DBS is absolutely canon to DBH.

It's game exclusive stuff that doesn't scale to Canon.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

The thread is going okay. I'm gonna leave now. Praying this ends.

 

[Skarfz]

For real though… I love how they called Qawsedf over all haughtily hoping he’d be their linchpin for starting up a “disagree FRA” train again, only for him to provide that last necessary agree.

The rarest of Dragon Ball wins.

Pein saw him agreeing and went for the "who accepted these standards?"

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Pein saw him agreeing and went for the "who accepted these standards?"

Laughing

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Nothing applies to the canon and it stays that way, practically DBH is from another reality, the entire story is changed, including the characters, in fact there are some similarities, but there are few.

Except....it does though? The CC characters are still versions of Goku and Vegeta which went through Battle of Gods, Resurrection of Frieza, the U6 Tournament, Goku Black, and of course the ToP as a whole. It doesn't matter if this Goku and Vegeta have experienced different events from canon or have differences, they are still a version of Dragon Ball Super where everything which applies to canon also applies to Heroes

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Ok, I understand why the thread is saying that DBS is 5D, but what would be the reason for DBH being 6D?

 

[Huesito88]

You and Reiner will have to deal with Pein if they try to change the standards.

At least Qaw follows the standards.

I'm pretty sure Georredannea will agree and join Pein

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Ok, I understand why the thread is saying that DBS is 5D, but what would be the reason for DBH being 6D?

I think it would be the same argument,but on a larger layer, since the timelines are infinites, I think you could use the same thing just with 6D

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Ok, I understand why the thread is saying that DBS is 5D, but what would be the reason for DBH being 6D?

I honestly don't know, maybe something involving the crack of time.

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

Ok, I understand why the thread is saying that DBS is 5D, but what would be the reason for DBH being 6D?

Honestly have no idea, maybe there are realms in the game above a normal timeline they may qualify

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

I honestly don't know, maybe something involving the crack of time.

Maybe if you compare the crack of time to the overarching timelines the same way one compares the overarching timelines to the macrocosm's you could get 6-D, but outside of that, I'm not sure.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Also if this thread passes...Xeno Goku vs Archie Super Sonic when ?

 

[Killerdrone123]

Ok, I understand why the thread is saying that DBS is 5D, but what would be the reason for DBH being 6D?

Using the same logic we used for the timeline we can upgrade c.o.t by proving that it is a higher time dimension

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Using the same logic we used for the timeline we can upgrade c.o.t by proving that it is a higher time dimension

Eh…..

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Also if this thread passes...Xeno Goku vs Archie Super Sonic when ?

Archie Sonic Fate Hax: No

 

[Killerdrone123]

Eh…..

We can't do it?

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Using the same logic we used for the timeline we can upgrade c.o.t by proving that it is a higher time dimension

Has someone compiled all the statements involving the Crack of Time and how it compares to the timelines?

Also, does anyone actually scale to the Crack of Time?

 

[Killerdrone123]

Archie Sonic Fate Hax: No

Dbh characters to have fate haxs I think you meant plot haxs

 

[CryoTheMayo]

The reason Zeno and Super Shenron could scale to Low 1-C is due to statements from the highest level authorities in the verse (Zeno, Grand Priest, Whis) stating that Zeno could destroy 'everything' and is the most powerful being as well as Super Shenron being stated as being able to grant 'any wish' which would likely include destroying the overarching timeline, which Zeno should scale to or above as the 'most powerful being'.

Yes, I can see why people would disagree with that since it's conjecture but a 'possibly Low 1-C' rating shouldn't be unreasonable.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

We can't do it?

Since when does the crack of time have its own time dimension?

 

[Killerdrone123]

Has someone compiled all the statements involving the Crack of Time and how it compares to the timelines?

Also, does anyone actually scale to the Crack of Time?

Yes

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Archie Sonic Fate Hax: No

Would the key sword not help? If not then womp womp.

Post Genesis Wave Archie Sonic don't got fate hax iirc.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Since when does the crack of time have its own time dimension?

Oh so no chance

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

The reason Zeno and Zalama could scale to Low 1-C is due to statements from the highest level authorities in the verse (Zeno, Grand Priest, Whis) stating that Zeno could destroy 'everything' and is the most powerful being as well as Zalama being stated as being able to grant 'any wish' which would likely include destroying the overarching timeline.

Yes, I can see why people would disagree with that since it's conjecture but a 'possibly Low 1-C' rating shouldn't be unreasonable.

Yeah, Zeno and Super Shenron are the only ones who scale.

Also, I remember you creating an argument about how Hit was actually affecting the hypertimeline in the World of Void, but that was actually one of my original arguments that got rejected by DontTalk.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

I was pissed seeing the CRT on discord, but then I was suprised seeing that we got 3 staff votes. W

Also I don’t think people realize if the RoSaT is a world with a different dimension of time, then that means that the Kaioshin Realm has a different dimension of time in comparison to the RoSaT. That means that the space-time separation comes from distinct time dimensions and not space-time separation via one temporal dimension.

Using the same logic we used for the timeline we can upgrade c.o.t by proving that it is a higher time dimension

There’s a better argument, but I’m gonna keep it a surprise.

Also if this thread passes...Xeno Goku vs Archie Super Sonic when ?

Bet

Has someone compiled all the statements involving the Crack of Time and how it compares to the timelines?

Also, does anyone actually scale to the Crack of Time?

Yeah Mira threatened to destroy everything to the point where Towa gave up and didn’t try to escape the blast even though she can teleport to the CoT which is separated from history.

The reason Zeno and Zalama could scale to Low 1-C is due to statements from the highest level authorities in the verse (Zeno, Grand Priest, Whis) stating that Zeno could destroy 'everything' and is the most powerful being as well as Zalama being stated as being able to grant 'any wish' which would likely include destroying the overarching timeline, which Zeno should scale to or above as the 'most powerful being'.

Yes, I can see why people would disagree with that since it's conjecture but a 'possibly Low 1-C' rating shouldn't be unreasonable.

Zalama doesn’t have a profile, Zeno is a given though.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

I was pissed seeing the CRT on discord

damn.