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All Might downgrade

I thought we already agreed on using the anime timeframe when it was calculated at 13 seconds.
 
VersusJunkie54 said:
What? I thought we were using the 3 second timeframe. That's what I am iffy about
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You don't understood me, I said that we already accepted the anime timeframe when it was 13 seconds, so what is the problem now that the timeframe is 3 seconds?
 
Therefir said:
VersusJunkie54 said:
What? I thought we were using the 3 second timeframe. That's what I am iffy about
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You don't understood me, I said that we already accepted the anime timeframe when it was 13 seconds, so what is the problem now that the timeframe is 3 seconds?
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It still comes off as heavily exxagerated to me, using a filler scene. And if memory serves me right, the area getting darker before all of the clouds even arrived also doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Though I could be wrong.
 
Damn, if the timeframe were still 13 seconds, we'd have the possibility of All Might going up against Meruem...
 
> The area getting darker before all the clouds even arrived also doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

The area become darker before the clouds arrive? How do you know that?

I think the timeframe is fine, but maybe we should not use the anime timeframe at all.
 
Therefir said:
> The area getting darker before all the clouds even arrived also doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
The area become darker before the clouds arrive? How do you know that?

I think the timeframe is fine, but maybe we should not use the anime at all.
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That statement is outdated. It makes more sense to consider the timeframe from when the vortex All Might created dissipates, to when we see the sky begin to darken
 
When the vortex that created All Might dissipates, there are no clouds in the sky since the scene doesn't get darker.

I suggest we assume a timeframe of 60 seconds like any other calc that doesn't have a timeframe and follows strictly the manga.
 
Therefir said:
When the vortex that created All Might dissipates, there are no clouds in the sky since the scene doesn't get darker.
I suggest we assume a timeframe of 60 seconds like any other calc that doesn't have a timeframe and follows strictly the manga.
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I agree with this.
 
Therefir said:
When the vortex that created All Might dissipates, there are no clouds in the sky since the scene doesn't get darker.
I suggest we assume a timeframe of 60 seconds like any other calc that doesn't have a timeframe and follows strictly the manga.
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Very well. Otherwise the constant conflics over the timeframe won't ever end. And the manga pennels imply a longer period of time as well.
 
Actually, I just quickly did a calc of it. It equates to 1.072 megatons, with Prime All Might being City level+, at 64.32 megatons
 
VersusJunkie54 said:
BlackeJan said:
Well just let us know what u got
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60 second timeframe with 5.3 kilometers radius is likely going to be High 7-C.
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Oh boy....well in all honesty i always thought that Prime Might would be 7-A and Weak Might would be Low 7-B....but to have High 7-C....
 
You can ask Kepekley to evaluate the calculation again, in order to make sure, if you wish.
 
What will happen? Meruem versus All Might will happen! <3

  • ahem*
There seem to be quite a few versions of the calc here. Which one is the, uh, "mainly supported" one right now and why?
 
It is probably best to ask some calc group members to evaluate which version that is best to use before we make any changes.
 
Antvasima said:
It is probably best to ask some calc group members to evaluate which version that is best to use before we make any changes.
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There needs to be a discussion about what times it is appropriate to use the anime adaptation of something to quantify feats. Because that is where a lot of the conflict surrounding this feat is stemming from.
 
Probably the calc group forum.
 
I have two propositions if this calc goes through, and I wish to ask for some input from this thread.

Due to how low end Low 7B this feat ended up being, it is possible that, just like last time, All For One and Noumu can go down to Low 7B

All Might himself can stay Low 7B, giving OFA to Izuku did not make him physically weaker, it simply made it so that he couldn't use OFA anymore once his Embers run out. Correct me if I'm wrong

Noumu and All For One however, that is where the issue arises.

So I have two propositions, and my thoughts on one of them.

Proposition A: Make them At Least High 7C+ possibly Low 7B

They fought and were perfectly even with a Low 7B, but All Might was weakened by the blow to his chest in the Noumu fight and was restraining himself on top of running out of Embers in the AFO fight.

Proposition B: Just make them High 7C+

Ultimately the feat down from AM is extremely Low End Low 7B, to say he was restraining himself or was weakened by such an incredibly small degree that he was still Low 7B is, IMO, unlikely.

Thoughts?
 
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1873804#4

I asked about when it is appropriate to use an anime scene to quantify a feat. Antvasima said that it's fine as long as it plays out as it did in the manga. But so far, this feat doesn't seem to fit that. As there are some noticeable differences from the anime and manga version of the feat.


Also, Gargoyle I like proposition B.
 
well what about the anime adaption? can that be used? idk why but i feel that Prime Might isnt 7-B+ but more like in the 7-A's
 
Just because he has no other feat on that level does not automatically make this one feat invalid. An outlier isn't a feat that is far higher than any other, it is a feat that completely and utterly contradicts one's established level of of power.
 
Again, it is best if you start a thread in the calc group forum, link to all of the calculations for the same feat, and politely ask the calc group members to come there to evaluate which version that is most reliable.
 
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