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Also unless it was established that the high 7-C feat is his maximum power output or close to his maximum power output, it does not contradict anything.
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All Might downgrade
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Yes it does, just because the feat was casual doesnt justify a 2 tier jump when all other feats preformed contradict it. He would just have a "Likley Higher" after his tier.
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@Wrath of Itachi What it doesn't justify is ignoring the very first actual feat All Might performed in the manga.
Two things are contradictory when they cannot be true simultaneously. A character being high 7-A/6-C and the character being being capable of performing a high 7-C feat are not contradictory.
Two things are contradictory when they cannot be true simultaneously. A character being high 7-A/6-C and the character being being capable of performing a high 7-C feat are not contradictory.
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Can you people seriously knock it off with this "Outlier" bullshit? It has been debunked a dozen times over.Wrath Of Itachi said:
That Low 7-C feat was done when All Might was running on the dying embers of his power. And the storm feat was at the beginning of the series, prior to him even giving One For All away.
You clearly don't understand what an outlier even is. This is not one of them.
An outlier is Master Roshi from DB destroying the Moon, while characters stated, and shown to be stronger than him destroy cities when going all out.
Or a feat that is way too casual in comparison to more consistent lower showings. (EG Master Chief damaging a 7-B without too much effort)
All Might does not fit into either of these, so stop. This has been debunked a dozen or so times over.
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I personally think the anime timeframe is good, but I'm unsure if it's 13 or 3 seconds.
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3 Seconds is ridiculously exaggerated. I estimated it to be around 13-11 seconds from the time the vortex dispersed, to when we see the area darken and the pressence of clouds and rain.
Antvasima said that using an anime timeframe is fine, as long as the scene pays out as it did in the manga.
Antvasima said that using an anime timeframe is fine, as long as the scene pays out as it did in the manga.
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Versus, I think it's just the lack of supporting feats that cause people to see it as an outlier.
Because really nothing else from the characters or rest of the series has indicated anyone else is close to 7-A / 6-C. It's a pretty high jump, even if All Might has obviously gotten weaker over the course of the series.
Because really nothing else from the characters or rest of the series has indicated anyone else is close to 7-A / 6-C. It's a pretty high jump, even if All Might has obviously gotten weaker over the course of the series.
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Dude, you need to calm down. I was just giving my opinion on this issue. Also, i would like you to provide the threads that debunk this feat being an outlier, i would like to read it over myself.VersusJunkie54 said:
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This is exactly what i was thinking.Damage3245 said:
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Why is there any need to? All Might and AFO are established God-Tiers. And the Storm feat was done with extreme effort before he gave One For All away.Damage3245 said:
That Low 7-C feat that everyone loves to bring up in an attempt to downgrade All Might was preformed by All For One, and casually so,, who All Might running on his embers was slightly stronger than him to begin with.
Nothing, literally nothing contradicts this rating whatsoever. And you and others constant attempts to argue it is an outlier are really tiring to constantly deal with.
So I think I speak for a lot of us when I say we'd appreciate it if you, and others would permanently drop the subject.
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I didn't even mention it was an outlier in my post...I was explaining why other people were calling it that... Calm down please.
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It's really easy. It has already been established that All Might>>>>>>everyone else. That would already be enough, but I'm going a bit deeper.
All Might has a quirk that stockpiles power (it's not really explained how, but it does). Said quirk, via fusing with another one, can be passed down, still maintaining the stockpiled power. After some generations, the quirk was passed down to All Might, and it had enough stockpiled power to be godly above any other quirk.
Wanting to give something more than "he's a top tier", as that seemingly didn't stop the whole outlier thing.
All Might has a quirk that stockpiles power (it's not really explained how, but it does). Said quirk, via fusing with another one, can be passed down, still maintaining the stockpiled power. After some generations, the quirk was passed down to All Might, and it had enough stockpiled power to be godly above any other quirk.
Wanting to give something more than "he's a top tier", as that seemingly didn't stop the whole outlier thing.
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Deku can't use all of the stockpiled power.
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Deku's 100% is just the maximum amount of his output, not all of OFA's power.
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Did you miss All Might going beyond 100% of his power during the USJ Arc?
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More reasons to not trust Horikoshi with percentages ovoDamage3245 said:
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Quirks are compared to muscles in the fact that they can be trained multiple times, so it's not too absurd to think that Deku can train himself to be stronger than All Might.
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Still, that's not how One For All was supposed to be. It was supposed to have all the hypertrophy all its users had obtained, and whenever a new user obtained it it would be like getting this last user's peak level of power and treating it like extremely atrophied muscles and getting some steroids to grow them up to peak human level from there, again and again, causing an exponential growth of power throughout its generations.
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Depends on how we accept the anime and if we don't what timeframeJinx666 said:
Which, is likely never
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Massive AOE fallacy right there. By that logic, the vast majority of verses wouldn't rise above 9-AMand21 said:
. Also, where is the silly idea of Deku 100% being stronger than All Might? The guy has barely had it. It makes total sense for his 100% to be far weaker than All Might's.
Did everyone forget that All Might himself said that Izuku's One For All would need to grow over time in order to surpass his??
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Izuku will be stronger than All Might. Just not yet.Mand21 said:
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We have an editing rule that when several calculations exist for the same feat, the calc group should be invited to a thread in their forum to discuss which one that should be used.
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