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Alien x vs Yhwach

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If Alien X doesn't have NPI then he can't win this at all, Yhwach at his strongest has Lille's Schrift, meaning he has passive intangibility that even characters with several forms of NPI can't interact with.

As for the part earlier about Yhwach technically having Mid-Godly, I believe this is false, that only really applies to Aizen, but Gerard regenerates from the Reishi around him so it's different.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I still don't think Alien X has had the soul inside the pocket dimension thing accepted yet, meaning he still gets soul crushed.
 
Purgy said:
If Alien X doesn't have NPI then he can't win this at all, Yhwach at his strongest has Lille's Schrift, meaning he has passive intangibility that even characters with several forms of NPI can't interact with.
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AX EE the whole timeline is still a wincon.


Purgy said:
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I still don't think Alien X has had the soul inside the pocket dimension thing accepted yet, meaning he still gets soul crushed.
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The soul crush effects aren't instant as shown in the manga
 
Considering you're the only one saying this we should be asking you lol. There is no wincon when you're already dead. And even more ridiculous you believe the starting 4km can somehow hinder Yhwach.
 
Gohanblanco217 said:
AX EE the whole timeline is still a wincon.
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No, I'm pretty sure nuking the timeline has never been a wincon again Low-Godly and above, especially when Alien X can't actually even EE Yhwach due to not having NPI, let alone NPI superior to Bleach characters who can't interact with Lille.
Gohanblanco217 said:
The soul crush effects aren't instant as shown in the manga
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It is multiple times, here's Aizen instantly disintegrating somebody as they come within range, keep in mind, Aizen's Reiatsu is sealed to be close to his body.
 
Purgy said:
No, I'm pretty sure nuking the timeline has never been a wincon again Low-Godly and above, especially when Alien X can't actually even EE Yhwach due to not having NPI, let alone NPI superior to Bleach characters who can't interact with Lille.
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It indeed does as this means that Yhwach is getting removed from all of history (especially when he doesn't even have Acausality type 1) which isn't something that Yhwach can counter




Purgy said:
It is multiple times, here's Aizen instantly disintegrating somebody as they come within range, keep in mind, Aizen's Reiatsu is sealed to be close to his body.
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And there are many others showing otherwise starting from this, the soul crush become more effective every time you get close in range until you die
 
yep lilies intangibility is superior to bleach characters who have NPI even when said bleach character used an attack to try an increase npi
what does NPI stand for

theres the passive soul crushing effect which is slow killing/deadly the closer you are, then the instant one if yhwach just exerts his reiatsu
 
Gohanblanco217 said:
It indeed does as this means that Yhwach is getting removed from all of history (especially when he doesn't even have Acausality type 1) which isn't something that Yhwach can counter
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I don't think it works like that at all, but okay.
Gohanblanco217 said:
And there are many others showing otherwise starting from this, the soul crush become more effective every time you get close in range until you die
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Can you post a statement proving this? I don't remember this ever being a thing

As to your point about Aizen, we have base Yama soul crushing Hollows from many KM's away, so unless you believe base casual Yama to be > Hogyoku Aizen in Reiatsu, then it stands to reason Aizen was controlling his Reiatsu.

I'm voting for Yhwach btw if that wasn't clear earlier, Alien X not having even base NPI let alone to the level required to touch Yhwach seals it for me, though even if this wasn't the case, I feel it's probably inconclusive at worst given that they both have thought based hax.
 
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well morals are off and they can use abilities out of character so i assume he can use the schrifts
also its been so long probably one of my first debate threads, why doesnt yhwach power null him to oblivion again?
ah type 2 acaus puke
 
Alien X can just Erase Yhwach and Almighty is useless since Alien X already counter it with his Acausality Type 2
 
Loyd said:
wasnt his soul safe cause it was in a pocket dimension?
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Well no, basicly Ben "Physically" got BFR to Debate Dimension when he transforms into Alien X so his "Real Body" got BFR not his soul but from i heard you need a 2B Range to affecting the Dimensional
 
TokiNoOuja said:
Alien X can just Erase Yhwach and Almighty is useless since Alien X already counter it with his Acausality Type 2
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Except this has already been gone over. The Almighty still works on Yhwach and The Miracle won’t be stopped so AX can’t put him down.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Except this has already been gone over. The Almighty still works on Yhwach and The Miracle won’t be stopped so AX can’t put him down.
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Resistance to Precognition and Acausality Type 2 is a 2 different thing which Resistance Precognition is just gave you able to withstand Precognition Ability while Acausality type 2 means you does'nt has "Future/Past" version of you which this already gave the user many resistence to abilities like Precognition,Fate Manipulation,Recognition due to the user does'nt exist in the past/future also from what i know The Miracle just give Yhwach Low Godly Regeneration so how Yhwach able to survive when got Erased without using his Almighty to counter it?
 
I feel like you didn’t read what I posted at all. I never said the Almighty would work on AX, I said it works on Yhwach which means no matter what AX does to him, Yhwach just nopes that shit.

You also didn’t read the thread where I explained that Bleach guys are all souls, physical EE means nothing, The Miracle creates a new body out of spiritual matter which has multiple layers of non physical so AX can’t EE them.

Yhwach just sits there and vibes.
 
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