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Alien X (Ben 10) vs Arceus Avatar (Pokemon)

Gohanblanco217

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  • Both are bloodlusted
  • Only Arceus avatar is being used
  • Speed equal
  • Both at 5D
  • Starting range : 30 m

Arceus : 3

Alien X : 2

Incon : 7
 
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I mean i guess dialga would blitz since speed ain't equal, but unless it's hax works on alien x, this is a stomp, i think avatar arceus would be a fairer match, if he is not bloodlust i guess
 
Alien X can't kill Arceus, because of immortality Type 9 and Arceus just kill Alien X with CM1
 
To clarify, what is the win condition since this is the avatar key only?

If the avatar is destroyed, but the True form still exists, is that a win condition?
 
I'd give Arceus Avatar the edge due to all the hax.
 
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Would these be relevant for the EE part of the debate?:

Invulnerability and Power Nullification (The plates can negate any attack[33], with each plate corresponding to a specific type of power. This ranges from physical attacks, psychic attacks, spiritual attacks, Magical attacks, Draconic attacks as well as elemental attacks and various forms of power nullifications like Eternatus power nullification, which could nullify all Pokémon atttacks including various forms of power nullification, attack reflection, power mimicry and more powers, Can also release a shockwave which negates the current effects of the opponents' abilities[34]. Scales vastly above Good As Gold, which negates all status moves which tries to affect it[35] , status moves being any attack which do not directly inflict damage, which ranges from curse manipulation, mind manipulation, sealing, power nullification and many more. Has a vastly superior version of this ability called First Law[36] which negates all effects excluding damage which tries to affect the user, and Metal Barrier[37] which negates all effects including damage, both of which are variations of the nullification power of his plates ), Acausality (Types 1. Unaffected by changes in history unless he allows them[38] and 4. Giratina is an aspect of Arceus who exists beyond the concepts of time and space. It runs on different logic and laws with distorted causality[39], physics doesnt make sense and the world is under the complete control of Giratina)
 
he should resist basic EE due to palkia and dialga resist to void manip + lacking a soul, but there is the part where alien x EE also scales to to the chrononavigator which can "erase time and causality", not sure if the plates can nullify that but acausality type 4 probably covers that since it is a indirect temporal EE

palkia and dialga being able to "wiping things from space-time" might also work for resistance but i'd like to know what this is based on
 
Make Alien X bypass Omnipotent first



NB: Any hax or whatsoever applications of powers that you use on him "misses" regardless of whether the probability of it hitting has been boosted to 100%, regardless of whether you use attacks that chase the target or not. They all "miss", don't touch him, don't and can't interact with him
 
Sniper670 said:
Make Alien X bypass Omnipotent first



NB: Any hax or whatsoever applications of powers that you use on him "misses" regardless of whether the probability of it hitting has been boosted to 100%, regardless of whether you use attacks that chase the target or not. They all "miss", don't touch him, don't and can't interact with him
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iirc Alien x consciousness and his powers are located in a low 1-C dimension, does Arceus Omnipotence ability have the range to reach it ?
 
Gohanblanco217 said:
iirc Alien x consciousness and his powers are located in a low 1-C dimension can Arceus Omnipotence (more like probability manipulation) reach it ?
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Yes. Arceus is low 1C because of his realm, which he can access and leave anytime he wants.

Any hax that tries to touch his being won't. It's not probability manipulation it hits alright but it's locked on "missed" and no amount of probability manipulation on the side of Pokémon can bypass it
 
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Yes. Arceus is low 1C because of his realm, which he can access and leave anytime he wants.
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I know where low 1-C Arceus come from but but does his probability manip have low 1-C range ? Since his probability manip would have to reach Alien x consciousness which is where his powers are located
 
Gohanblanco217 said:
I know where low 1-C Arceus come from but but does his probability manip have low 1-C range ? Since his probability manip would have to reach Alien x consciousness which is where his powers are located
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You didn't hear me?

Probability manipulation has no effect on it. It's not probability as it hits, but the nature of "Omnipotent" sets it to "missed"
 
Imaginym said:
Would these be relevant for the EE part of the debate?:

Invulnerability and Power Nullification (The plates can negate any attack[33], with each plate corresponding to a specific type of power. This ranges from physical attacks, psychic attacks, spiritual attacks, Magical attacks, Draconic attacks as well as elemental attacks and various forms of power nullifications like Eternatus power nullification, which could nullify all Pokémon atttacks including various forms of power nullification, attack reflection, power mimicry and more powers, Can also release a shockwave which negates the current effects of the opponents' abilities[34]. Scales vastly above Good As Gold, which negates all status moves which tries to affect it[35] , status moves being any attack which do not directly inflict damage, which ranges from curse manipulation, mind manipulation, sealing, power nullification and many more. Has a vastly superior version of this ability called First Law[36] which negates all effects excluding damage which tries to affect the user, and Metal Barrier[37] which negates all effects including damage, both of which are variations of the nullification power of his plates ), Acausality (Types 1. Unaffected by changes in history unless he allows them[38] and 4. Giratina is an aspect of Arceus who exists beyond the concepts of time and space. It runs on different logic and laws with distorted causality[39], physics doesnt make sense and the world is under the complete control of Giratina)
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Has arceus been shown nulling 4D EE?
 
Sniper670 said:
Make Alien X bypass Omnipotent first



NB: Any hax or whatsoever applications of powers that you use on him "misses" regardless of whether the probability of it hitting has been boosted to 100%, regardless of whether you use attacks that chase the target or not. They all "miss", don't touch him, don't and can't interact with him
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How would reality things like EE "miss" exactly? Seems like nlf tbh
 
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