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Alien X (Ben 10) vs Arceus Avatar (Pokemon)
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Okay voting alien x since arceus hax to protect himself apparently where never shown to work on 5D hax, so alien x just EE GG
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Immortality type 9: Am I a joke for you?
Killing or EE the avatar in not a wincon, the heart will just send another one.
And Arceus can kill Alien X with CM1
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Well, the op specified that it is only the avatar, and that if the avatar is killed it will be considered a win by alien x, plus coming back just to be erased over and over forever is an wincon by alien x
Op stablished the rules that it would, for this match anyway
How does that work? How does he use it in an offence manner ussually?
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The OP can't restricted his immortality type 9, so no, Arceus will continue came back
Yes, he can eraser the concepts
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He is not restricting, just putting that only the avatar is for the fight, with the original spirit not interfering, so if alien x kills the avatar it would count as a win, look go complain with the op, not me, that is what he said
I asked how he does it, i know he can but how he can?
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Read Arceus profile :
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1. Emanated the concept of time, space, willpower, emotions and knowledge into existence. Upscaled from the Creation Trio who could erase the concept of spirit[15]. Spirit/Mind is embodied by the Lake Trio[16], which dictates metaphysical aspect of existence, with some beings being able to exist on a mental level[17]. There are likely many more, as gods and goddesses representing various aspects of the multiverse have been mentioned to exist, including god of death, goddesses of the earth and many unnamed ones, with some Pokémon being rumored to be incarnations of these beings)
He can erase the concept of spirits scaling to Palkia and Dialga (it takes time though)
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Doesn't matter, If he is not restricting, so Arceus still having immortality type 9, no matter if the original spirit is in the fight or not
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Gohanblanco
So what is stoping from Arceus defeat Alien X with fear hax
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Average tier 1 matchup
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Well, even so if he gets erased over and over again, then it is still a wincon for Alien X
Can you please answer my question? Also how does the fear hax work?
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He upscale from Mimikyu (Upscaled from Mimikyu. The shock of seeing Mimikyu's true form killed a human)
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Alien x consciousness and his powers as I said are located on a low 1-C dimension (read the note on Alien x profile), any hax (especially mind hax) that doesn't have low 1-C range won't reach Alien x consciousness
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Alien X Pocket dimension is 4-D, and just need 4-D range to reach Alien x consciousness.
And Arceus has Low 1-C range
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"Due to his Body being Universe itself it should qualify for HDE aka 4D"
From the CRT, which gaves Alien X the HDE
From the CRT, which gaves Alien X the HDE
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1) It is 5D
2) doesn't mean all his abilities scale, he never used Fear manip on a low 2-C scale never mind about low 1-C
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1) Its 4-D the own CRT which gives Alien X HDE mentions it's 4-D
2)"Extended Melee Range; Low Complex Multiversal with attacks and abilities" No distinction between skills
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1) that's because Alien x was tier 2 during that time and low 1-C cosmology wasn't accepted yet iirc
2)this only includes attacks and abilities that were shown or stated to work on a low 1-C range
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He was already tier 1 when the CRT which gives him HDE was made
Nop, there is no distinction between the range of skills
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Ben 10: HDE and Infinite lifting strength for Alien X
This CRT is pretty simple; Alien X body itself is iself a Pocket Universe with infinite galaxies shown in the events of Universe recreation when he sent galaxies outside of his body in the main Universe, it has been already accepted here and written on his profile. Serena, Bellicus and Ben...
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Off topic, But I think this imagem of Alien X is cursed
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That's Alien x own dimension which is located inside of his body not the dimension where his consciousness and his powers are located which exist outside of space and time , 2 different things
What do you mean ? It's beautiful
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so unless arceus shows its "true form" then this wouldn't happen
nope, it counts as a wincon, since it is basically incap
Killing someone over and over again, don't count has a wincon, count as a incon.
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His consciousness exist in his pocket dimension, he BORN outside of space and time
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Arceus don't a have a true form in avatar state, so he has fear hax in his regular state
"incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day"
Arceus has passive EE, so he stills harming the Alien X
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Let's just agree that Alien x one shot the verse and call it a day alright ? This way we can end the debate quickly
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Nahh, Arceus and Alien X start to argue for eternity while Ben begs someone to get him out of there
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His consciousness exist in his pocket dimension, he BORN outside of space and time
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Arceus also has Acausality type 4
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There's only type 1 in his avatar form
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Acausality (Types 1. Unaffected by changes in history unless he allows them[38] and 4. Giratina is an aspect of Arceus who exists beyond the concepts of time and space. It runs on different logic and laws with distorted causality[39], physics doesnt make sense and the world is under the complete control of Giratina)
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That's true form, not for avatar
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Acausality (Types 1. Unaffected by changes in history unless he allows them[38] and 4. Giratina is an aspect of Arceus who exists beyond the concepts of time and space. It runs on different logic and laws with distorted causality[39], physics doesnt make sense and the world is under the complete control of Giratina)
Read the profile
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oh my bad lol
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Off topic but now that I think about it can the Omnitrix scan avatar Arceus ?
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I dont think so but if it is possible Alien X can wincon
