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Alien X (Ben 10) vs Arceus Avatar (Pokemon)

Okay voting alien x since arceus hax to protect himself apparently where never shown to work on 5D hax, so alien x just EE GG
 
omegabronic said:
Okay voting alien x since arceus hax to protect himself apparently where never shown to work on 5D hax, so alien x just EE GG
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Immortality type 9: Am I a joke for you?

Killing or EE the avatar in not a wincon, the heart will just send another one.

And Arceus can kill Alien X with CM1
 
Dragonite007 said:
Immortality type 9: Am I a joke for you?
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Well, the op specified that it is only the avatar, and that if the avatar is killed it will be considered a win by alien x, plus coming back just to be erased over and over forever is an wincon by alien x

Dragonite007 said:
Killing or EE the avatar in not a wincon, the heart will just send another one.
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Op stablished the rules that it would, for this match anyway

Dragonite007 said:
And Arceus can kill Alien X with CM1
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How does that work? How does he use it in an offence manner ussually?
 
omegabronic said:
Well, the op specified that it is only the avatar, and that if the avatar is killed it will be considered a win by alien x, plus coming back just to be erased over and over forever is an wincon by alien x

Op stablished the rules that it would, for this match anyway
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The OP can't restricted his immortality type 9, so no, Arceus will continue came back
omegabronic said:
How does that work? How does he use it in an offence manner ussually?
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Yes, he can eraser the concepts
 
Dragonite007 said:
The OP can't restricted his immortality type 9, so no, Arceus will continue came back
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He is not restricting, just putting that only the avatar is for the fight, with the original spirit not interfering, so if alien x kills the avatar it would count as a win, look go complain with the op, not me, that is what he said

Dragonite007 said:
Yes, he can eraser the concepts
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I asked how he does it, i know he can but how he can?
 
omegabronic said:
He is not restricting, just putting that only the avatar is for the fight, with the original spirit not interfering, so if alien x kills the avatar it would count as a win, look go complain with the op, not me, that is what he said


I asked how he does it, i know he can but how he can?
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Read Arceus profile :

Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1. Emanated the concept of time, space, willpower, emotions and knowledge into existence. Upscaled from the Creation Trio who could erase the concept of spirit[15]. Spirit/Mind is embodied by the Lake Trio[16], which dictates metaphysical aspect of existence, with some beings being able to exist on a mental level[17]. There are likely many more, as gods and goddesses representing various aspects of the multiverse have been mentioned to exist, including god of death, goddesses of the earth and many unnamed ones, with some Pokémon being rumored to be incarnations of these beings)

He can erase the concept of spirits scaling to Palkia and Dialga (it takes time though)
 
omegabronic said:
He is not restricting, just putting that only the avatar is for the fight, with the original spirit not interfering, so if alien x kills the avatar it would count as a win, look go complain with the op, not me, that is what he said
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Doesn't matter, If he is not restricting, so Arceus still having immortality type 9, no matter if the original spirit is in the fight or not
omegabronic said:
I asked how he does it, i know he can but how he can?
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Gohanblanco


So what is stoping from Arceus defeat Alien X with fear hax
 
omegabronic said:
Well, even so if he gets erased over and over again, then it is still a wincon for Alien X
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Killing someone over and over again, don't count has a wincon, count as a incon.
 
Dragonite007 said:
So what is stoping from Arceus defeat Alien X with fear hax
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Alien x consciousness and his powers as I said are located on a low 1-C dimension (read the note on Alien x profile), any hax (especially mind hax) that doesn't have low 1-C range won't reach Alien x consciousness
 
Gohanblanco217 said:
Alien x consciousness and his powers as I said are located on a low 1-C dimension (read the note on Alien x profile), any hax (especially mind hax) that doesn't have low 1-C range won't reach Alien x consciousness
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Alien X Pocket dimension is 4-D, and just need 4-D range to reach Alien x consciousness.

And Arceus has Low 1-C range
 
"Due to his Body being Universe itself it should qualify for HDE aka 4D"

From the CRT, which gaves Alien X the HDE
 
Gohanblanco217 said:
1) It is 5D

2) doesn't mean all his abilities scale, he never used Fear manip on a low 1-C scale like at all
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1) Its 4-D the own CRT which gives Alien X HDE mentions it's 4-D

2)"Extended Melee Range; Low Complex Multiversal with attacks and abilities" No distinction between skills
 
Dragonite007 said:
1) Its 4-D the own CRT which gives Alien X HDE mentions it's 4-D

2)"Extended Melee Range; Low Complex Multiversal with attacks and abilities" No distinction between skills
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1) that's because Alien x was tier 2 during that time and low 1-C cosmology wasn't accepted yet iirc

2)this only includes attacks and abilities that were shown or stated to work on a low 1-C range
 
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omegabronic said:
so unless arceus shows its "true form" then this wouldn't happen
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Arceus don't a have a true form in avatar state, so he has fear hax in his regular state
omegabronic said:
so unless arceus shows its "true form" then this wouldn't happen


nope, it counts as a wincon, since it is basically incap
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"incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day"

Arceus has passive EE, so he stills harming the Alien X
 
Dragonite007 said:
Arceus don't a have a true form in avatar state, so he has fear hax in his regular state

"incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day"

Arceus has passive EE, so he stills harming the Alien X
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Let's just agree that Alien x one shot the verse and call it a day alright ? This way we can end the debate quickly
 
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