Alien X 3-A Downgrade

[TauanVictor]

A CRT was recently created for an upgrade from Alien X to 2-B. Over time, the comments turned into a space related to a possible Downgrade of Alien X to 3-A.​

So I decided to make this separate CRT with the same arguments presented in the other CRT.​

3-A Alien X​

• The universe exists in the space beyond, showing it doesn’t have its own space and shares a space with other universes. The universe is also shown to be a cluster of galaxies.
• Alien X creates all galaxies and doesn’t change the spatial background.
• Ben admits he was too late to save the universe, while Serena and Bellicus agree it’s too late despite the universe still being in the process of dying. As a bonus when asked if Alien X can stop the destruction Serena and Bellicus don’t answer. So it’s heavily implied that Alien X couldn’t stop it.
• The past Mr. Smoothy was never changed so time was never affected. It’s also the same timeline as shown here, all the markings made by Ben in the past appeared in the future.
• The Chronosapien Time Bomb destroys Ben, with his failsafe having nothing to stop it. The same failsafe that always tires to find a way to save Ben’s life.
• Ben and Rook exit the prime timeline, showing it’s still intact. This shows that the timeline was never created from scratch.
• Here it’s stated that a universe can be with a dimension, further supporting “the space beyond” statement by Professor Paradox.
• Here it’s stated that Maltruant is in a time loop and is still affected by it in the beginning of time. As a side note, it’s called the beginning of time and it’s stated that time “hasn’t started yet”, meaning it exists but hasn’t started moving.
• Here the Big Bang is shown as an explosion, and as stated before, never created an entire timeline, or even created time, but merely started it.
• In context, this statement means universe, as shown here here and here. Servantis himself was worried that he was exaggerating, and that Ben “proving him right” was likely the events of Ben remaking the universe.
• This also isn’t the first time “everything” was used to describe the universe.
• Alien X being unable to survive timeline destruction is supported by WoG.

Agree: 19 (@Shadyboi0, @DaReaperMan, @Shizuka, @Lormac_CC, @ProfessorKukui4Life, @Ganasto, @Delta333, @AbaddonTheDisappointment, @Rikimarox2, @Eficiente, @Avengershows, @CheatHydra, @sanicspood, @1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void, @Apex_PredatorX, @Pain_to12, @Planck69, @ZoroNotZolo, @Hop_Hoppington-Hoppenhiemer)
Disagree: 2 (@Malomtek, @GilverTheProtoAngelo)
Neutral: 3 (@FluffyCreatureZ, @Sus, @Antvasima)

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Bruh wtf happened?

 

[Daddybrawl]

They wanted you to move your argument to a new thread. I do believe that, as the main contributor to the argument, someone should’ve consulted you before copy/pasting your Argument to a new location, however.

 

[TauanVictor]

They wanted you to move your argument to a new thread. I do believe that, as the main contributor to the argument, someone should’ve consulted you before copy/pasting your Argument to a new location, however.

Oh, I understand...

 

[Pepsiman25th]

after the madness of the 2-B upgrade thread, i expected this to happen

 

[My_area]

Bruh wtf happened?

The thread got so much derailed from 2-B upgrade and that any new person who is going to join the thread would think its a thread to upgrade Alien X to 2-B rather than downgrade him to 3-A which discussions has turned into so far. Not only was it derailing but the title became completely misleading so a separate thread for downgrade is better.

 

[Pepsiman25th]

Honestly, alien x sounds more like a 3-B than a 3-A
atleast 3-B, possibly 3-A

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Honestly, alien x sounds more like a 3-B than a 3-A
atleast 3-B, possibly 3-A

Aye yo. none of that.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Honestly, alien x sounds more like a 3-B than a 3-A
atleast 3-B, possibly 3-A

Yeah no

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Anyway if we assume that the arguments for 3-A Annihilaargh is legit I still think Alien x should be low 2-C because as we know Celestialsapiens can affect timelines via RW so a single Celestialsapien should be baseline low 2-C based on this

 

[Pepsiman25th]

Anyway if we assume that the arguments for 3-A Annihilaargh is legit I still think Alien x should be low 2-C because as we know Celestialsapiens can affect timelines via RW so a single Celestialsapien should be baseline low 2-C tbh

maybe at least 3-A, possibly low 2-C?

 

[Gohanblanco217]

maybe at least 3-A, possibly low 2-C?

Maybe? It's not like Alien x has any anti feat that put him below low 2-C anyway since we've clearly seen 3-A destruction is a peace of cake to him (he clearly got 0 damage by the Annihilaargh)

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Also Alien X recreating all matter in the universe is just 4-A, assuming the universe is just a 3-A cosmology

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Also Alien X recreating all matter in the universe is just 4-A, assuming the universe is just a 3-A cosmology

Imagine thinking creating entire galaxies is just 4-A not it should be 5-B

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Imagine thinking creating entire galaxies is just 4-A not it should be 5-B

A galaxy is contain a lot of space . All matter in the universe combined is just 4-A, tho I heard it could be 3-C, I dunno.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Downgrade Alien X's intelligence to below average because he didn't recreate correctly an ice cream

 

[Gohanblanco217]

A galaxy is contain a lot of space . All matter in the universe combined is just 4-A, tho I heard it could be 3-C, I dunno.

It was literally stated that Alien x created the Universe as a whole so that should be 3-A not only the guides themselves says that Alien x can can create and destroy entire universes which is either 3-A or low 2-C

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It was literally stated that Alien x created the Universe as a whole so that should be 3-A not only the guides themselves says that Alien x can can create and destroy entire universes which is either 3-A or low 2-C

Again, a Universe is vastly made out of space. If Alien X supposedly only recreated the matter that was destroyed, that would be 4-A with 3-A range. But I'm not trying to argue Alien X should be downgraded low, I'm just saying it's not really a valid feat for 3-A, since he didn't recreate the space to begin with

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Again, a Universe is vastly made out of space. If Alien X supposedly only recreated the matter that was destroyed, that would be 4-A with 3-A range. But I'm not trying to argue Alien X should be downgraded low, I'm just saying it's not really a valid feat for 3-A, since he didn't recreate the space to begin with

That doesn't make any sense tbh we've seen Celestialsapiens RW affecting entire timelines so him not being able to recreate space sounds pretty iffy to me even tho it was literally stated that the whole universe got destroyed which should at least includes it's space

 

[Livinmeme]

Again, a Universe is vastly made out of space. If Alien X supposedly only recreated the matter that was destroyed, that would be 4-A with 3-A range. But I'm not trying to argue Alien X should be downgraded low, I'm just saying it's not really a valid feat for 3-A, since he didn't recreate the space to begin with

Destroying all the matter in the universe is 3-A because destroying the spaces of the universe is likelly 4-D

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Destroying all the matter in the universe is 3-A

That would be by creating an explosion that would need to expand over large areas. Overall, I don't really care if he becomes 3-A or Low 2-C, I just think him recreating the universe shouldn't be used as an argument for 3-A specifically

 

[Shadyboi0]

This shit hurts more than the unicron downgrade.

Agree with 3-A Alien X

 

[DaReaperMan]

Agree with 3-A Alien X.

 

[Livinmeme]

Disagree on this and atleast he should be 3-A Probally Low 2-C

 

[Deleted member 11410]

Agree with 3-A Alien X sowwy

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Agree with 3-A Alien X sowwy

Okay, Shizuka agreed. The downgrade is now inevitable regardless of the argument

 

[Livinmeme]

Wow is like anyone isnt reading the counter arguments and they come like a hive mind to say "Muh i agree"

 

[DaReaperMan]

Wow is like anyone isnt reading the counter arguments and they come like a hive mind to say "Muh i agree"

We are, we literally just aren't convinced by them wanker.

 

[Lormac_CC]

An upgrade turned to a downgrade, anyways agree

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Isn't a big bang supposed to create an entire 3-A space?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Isn't a big bang supposed to create an entire 3-A space?

Depending on context it can be 3-A or Low 2-C usually.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Depending on context it can be 3-A or Low 2-C usually.

Yeah but for a 3-A Big bang isn't it supposed to create 3D space? Or only celestial objects?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yeah but for a 3-A Big bang isn't it supposed to create 3D space? Or only celestial objects?

Definitely dependant on context. Celestial objects is how our Big bang is but that doesn't mean it can't be 3-D space.

These kinds of things really depend on context, I just can't see Alien X any lower then 3-A however.

 

[Pepsiman25th]

Okay, Shizuka agreed. The downgrade is now inevitable regardless of the argument

Alien X is 4-A

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

10-B physically, at most 4-A with Reality warping

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Okay, no more derailing

 

[My_area]

Isn't a big bang supposed to create an entire 3-A space?

Big bang creates an entire space and time continuum so Low 2-C. A 3-A big bang would consequently create all the space of the universe essentially all of the 3-A space.

 

[Livinmeme]

We are, we literally just aren't convinced by them wanker.

Except when they didnt

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Big bang creates an entire space and time continuum so Low 2-C. A 3-A big bang would consequently create all the space of the universe essentially all of the 3-A space.

Then when Alien x created the Universe he should've have created at least all it's space right?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

But the space was still there, that was the argument used in the OP