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Aizen vs Vergil

Ang4I00 said:
Yamatos concept hax really was only for him splitting himself into V and Urizen. I can see Mundus using his concept hax in character or Sparda, but not Dante or Vergil.
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This is a bit more complicated, since concept hax isn't unique to Yamato. Still, the spacial cutting and regeneration negation are already a brutal combo, so the concept hax isn't needed anyway.

Anyway, either social influencing is the only wincon, or this is a stomp and should be closed/abandoned. And Vergil should work on overcoming his Homelander-esque insecurities, maybe learn that there are other ways to deal with one's issue besides slaughtering a whole city.
 
Random-Helper323 said:
This is a bit more complicated, since concept hax isn't unique to Yamato.
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Concept hax on regular attacks was removed when PoC stuff was removed, only weapons like Rebellion(by extension DSD too) and Yamato have concept hax, but it's not combat applicable. Only like Mundus and Sparda could realistically use concept hax in character.

But yeah, Vergil pretty much utterly stomps, I don't think social influencing is a viable wincon, Vergil isn't that type of guy to be influenced, especially by someone who's weaker than him.
Aizen can't really give him something that Vergil would want so he would be considered useless lol. Vergil could use Aizen like he did with Arkham and just kill him later but I don't know if its of any use lol.
 
Ang4I00 said:
Concept hax on regular attacks was removed when PoC stuff was removed, only weapons like Rebellion(by extension DSD too) and Yamato have concept hax, but it's not combat applicable. Only like Mundus and Sparda could realistically use concept hax in character.
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The concept/name stuff has been used by Dante several times btw, it doesn't need to be some super mumbo jumbo, just saying or uttering a name is enough for them to do the concept shit.

Not saying Dante will use it, just that he has used it in character several times.

Vergil for his part was doing the name shit left and right in the manga but that's because he wanted to free the tower, other than that he hasn't used it iirc.
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
The concept/name stuff has been used by Dante several times btw, it doesn't need to be some super mumbo jumbo, just saying or uttering a name is enough for them to do the concept shit.

Not saying Dante will use it, just that he has used it in character several times.

Vergil for his part was doing the name shit left and right in the manga but that's because he wanted to free the tower, other than that he hasn't used it iirc.
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Ik, but the ability itself was used so little that its basically forgotten, Dante iirc only directly used it on himself in Vol 1 and never used it in combat applicable way, same can be said about Vergil, he only named 1 or a couple of demons and that's all. That's why I said it's not really in character to use it, only if there's like no way to defeat someone, like a last resort kind of thing.
 
Ang4I00 said:
Ik, but the ability itself was used so little that its basically forgotten, Dante iirc only directly used it on himself in Vol 1 and never used it in combat applicable way, same can be said about Vergil, he only named 1 or a couple of demons and that's all. That's why I said it's not really in character to use it, only if there's like no way to defeat someone, like a last resort kind of thing.
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Dante used it on himself twice, the void and Nero. The latter 2 are combat applicable.

Vergil named demons and the Yamato split.

It is in character for them, it's not just something they whip out at the first sign of danger
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
Dante used it on himself twice, the void and Nero. The latter 2 are combat applicable.

Vergil named demons and the Yamato split.

It is in character for them, it's not just something they whip out at the first sign of danger
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Mundus and Nero thingies are very very debatable, too vague really and wouldn't say that they're combat applicable cases.
Ang4I00 said:
That's why I said it's not really in character to use it, only if there's like no way to defeat someone, like a last resort kind of thing.
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That's what I was kind of implying tho but yeah, I agree with the last portion.
 
I don't agree to Vergil being influenced by Aizen.
Vergil has had many encounters with Dante, whom has had a lot of chit chatter and things like "Stop you!" type of things.

Now, Dante's charisma is something to take into account, because he has 3 feats to bring into the table.

Vergil was and is unable to be influenced by Dante having this charismatic effect on people, demons and animals. This is because he has interacted with him plenty of times and has had a lot of contact with him, but was unable to return to good in his quest for power.
 
Such a match could not have come from anyone other than Robo lol.

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Robo432343 said:
wtf
what happened to poc dmc key in profiles
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waiting for the official release (which was yesterday), we are collecting all the scans, we don't want another "urr They are manipulated translation" bullshit, eventually we will have them all, it will probably take us until February
 
Oliver_de_jesus said:
waiting for the official release (which was yesterday), we are collecting all the scans, we don't want another "urr They are manipulated translation" bullshit, eventually we will have them all, it will probably take us until February
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how do i look at the POC abilities they had 🗿
 
SuperSonicTL said:
Not really but now its finished... Oh wait what am i kidding? Its still have a locked story mode and lack of characters and items that will be included in upcoming updates.
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1.0 was finished, they just dropped it to create the shittiest shit known as 2.0
 
Robo432343 said:
were the type 1 concept scans from poc also faked??
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No exactly, the Type 1 Concept is the same as Type 2, we simply did not have concrete evidence that it was independent of reality.

Also, I would suggest waiting, there are many areas through which one has to explore and unlock things, I have found minor things that correlate with some scans but not other things, they are probably at the higher levels or were discarded along with some mechanics
 
Vergil is comparable to Dante
Dante inconned Kratos
Kratos stomped Aizen this week
gg
 
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