Ainz vs Dante

[SpookyShadow]

It is, he just dies and can resurrect by using it iirc.

 

[Apeironaxim]

then i guess i'll go with what i was saying before

Ainz gets off some death spells, sees his opponent resurrecting, then goes True Death

 

[Dienomite22]

Don't mean to be off topic but this thread reminded me to make a King Cerberus profile and they have pretty potent elemental attacks.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Iirc Alastor can let him precog threats, so Dante can stat amp and blitz Ainz I think. He will not just stand here and take all of his attacks.

 

[Apeironaxim]

the death spells Ainz uses don't have travel time, so he couldn't sense those

if he will just blitz, then that's a stomp

 

[SpookyShadow]

Blitz is a wincon, it doesn't make things stomps

 

[Apeironaxim]

i've literally only ever heard blitzes are stomps

 

[SpookyShadow]

It's a stomp if someone can blitz + one shot

 

[Schnee_One]

How many threads have you been on?

 

[Apeironaxim]

never heard that, i'd like confirmation on that

 

[Schnee_One]

How many threads have you been on?

Genuine question because most Ikki threads are like this as are Ruby Rose threads

 

[Apeironaxim]

i don't go on ikki or RWBY threads threads with any regularity

have participated in probably about one of each

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Guys, with DT restricted this will not get added if concluded, you can't take away powers, only if they are on a higher Tier

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

DT leads to a higher tier, so it can be restricted

 

[SpookyShadow]

Uhhh. Doesn't DT make Dante from 7-B to Low 2-C?

 

[Dienomite22]

Spooky only took away Sparda DT which is low 2-C, not the other ones.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

SPARDA Devil Trigger makes him Low 2-C

Normal Devil Trigger only makes him strong enough to one shot his base power

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Spooky meant to restrict Sparda Devil Trigger

 

[SpookyShadow]

I meant to take away Sparda Devil Trigger because it makes him higher tier, I'll specify it, my bad

 

[Apeironaxim]

so, since regular Devil Trigger lets him one-shot his base power, he'll probably end up one-shotting Ainz too

which makes this a blitz + one-shot as far as i can tell

 

[Dienomite22]

That is true

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Speed is equal

How many Megatons Ainz have ?

 

[Apeironaxim]

Speed is equal
How many Megatons Ainz have ?

Spooky says Dante blitzes with stat amp

46.54

 

[Dienomite22]

Dante is allowed to speed boost since he has superior speed without speed equalization.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

If this guy is 46 Megatons, Dante's never going to one shot him

In base he can stomp 10 Megaton characters and fight two of them at the same time, one of them being Nightmare who scales far above 10 Meg

And he one shots that in DT, I would say that DT Dante can match Ainz AP, and since Dante can sense that he'll use right at the beggining since it is very in character for him against comparable/stronger opponents

However even if a possible AP difference, both of them have many attacks that negate that so meh

 

[Apeironaxim]

attacks which Ainz likely can't get off with Dante's precog and blitzing

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Well, yeah, and there's Time Stop aswell

 

[SpookyShadow]

Welp, going to sleep. @Schnee if it's a stomp close this later

 

[Apeironaxim]

Well, yeah, and there's Time Stop aswell

both resist time stop

 

[Lightning_XXI]

OHHH so we have a problem here, because Dante only resists it with Devil Sword Sparda, which isn't his first weapon to use here

 

[Apeironaxim]

oh

Ainz's main things in combat are death hax and Time Stop. Time Stop is going to be an extremely early move, if not his first move

 

[Dienomite22]

Whenever DMC1 Dante had Sparda, it was the only weapon he used besides the short time he didn't have it after the Mundus fight.

 

[Apeironaxim]

so he is going to use/have it pretty much right away?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Wait when did dante resist timestop with spardas sword?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Scaling from other mundus generals who can resist it. It is because of the sword.

If he has the Sparda here then he won't doubt using it as he pretty much used it as his main weapon the moment he got it until he defeated and "killed" Mundus.

As for this battle, I'm not reading Ainz wall of text.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Ignore most of it. All you need to know is he leads with time stop and death hax or death hax which stuns followed by time hax and better death hax.

 

[Apeironaxim]

basically, when Ainz sees Dante resurrect, he's immediately going to go for True Death

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Yeah Time Stop is not going to work

How his Death Hax work ? It is a projectile ? Royalguard can block energy based attacks so it can defend Dante against it, depending on how it works

 

[Apeironaxim]

he casts it, and the effect happens, no travel time

At least for the ones he uses

 

[AnonymousBlank]

The only death hax I can think of that actually has travel time is Cry of the Banshee which is AOE that he doesn't use unless he is fighting a bunch of stuff he needs to kill fast.