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I want scans of conceptual erasure, nonexistent etc. as this seem wank tbh.
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ahriman (myth) request/debunk
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then I want quotes or evidence more than hearsay
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"Ahriman is nothing whatsoever"
-Avesta (Sacred Text Ahriman is in)
-Avesta (Sacred Text Ahriman is in)
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I think this is the first time ive heard someone refer to mythology as wank.
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proof that it actually says that? and what is it in context?ZacharyGrossman273 said:
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I gave you the source. Avesta.
Also, he's Ahura Mazda's equal, who created conceptual embodiments.
"Thirty-three Ameshaspands and their Creator Ahura Mazda are victorious and holy"
Also, he's Ahura Mazda's equal, who created conceptual embodiments.
"Thirty-three Ameshaspands and their Creator Ahura Mazda are victorious and holy"
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just did and its ridiculously out of contextWokistan said:
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just did and its ridiculously out of context
Citation needed.
Citation needed.
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"The Creator , the keeper of the world , (is) omnipotent and omniscient , and the Nourisher of all, and the producer , and the Doer of meritorious deeds and overseer . Ahriman is nothing whatsoever (and is) ignorant , and cannot do anything"
even if u think it's in context, nigh-omniscience has to go. the "nothing wHATSOEVER" is refering to his stature as a god and it continues to say he's ignorant and can't do anything
even if u think it's in context, nigh-omniscience has to go. the "nothing wHATSOEVER" is refering to his stature as a god and it continues to say he's ignorant and can't do anything
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Ignorant refers to lack of wisdom in this context. In terms of actual planning and the like he's definitely nigh omniscient.
"Nothing whatsoever is refering to his stature as a god"
What?
"Nothing whatsoever is refering to his stature as a god"
What?
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citation neededZacharyGrossman273 said:
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Makes no sense a guy who is as intellegent as the literal source of wisdom wouldn't be nigh omniscient
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but still, nonexistent has to go. it's just comparing the creator's stature as a god to ahriman. it's essentially saying dat ahriman is nothing compred to the creator
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...What? Not only do I have no idea how you are getting that, but Ahura views Ahriman as a genuine threat. The two are brothers, and equals.
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not my fault mythology doesn't treat him like thatZacharyGrossman273 said:
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I'll have to ask for quotes on that. I can't do Control F, I'm on mobile.ZacharyGrossman273 said:
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I agree Nonexistence Physiology is unfounded here, and should definitely go, seeing the actual context of the phrase.
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Merci BeaucoupUltima Reality said:
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Ahriman being an abstract concept is legit though, as he at least embodies destruction, as is his conceptual manipulation.Ultima Reality said:
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Ahriman being an abstract concept is legit though, as he at least embodies destruction, as is his conceptual manipulation.
That has nothing to do with anything.
That has nothing to do with anything.
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Ahriman being an abstract concept is legit though, as he at least embodies destruction, as is his conceptual manipulation.
citation needed
citation needed
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Sources with proper context would be great to back that up.
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I know, his conceptual manip is due to both creating death and equaling ahura mazda.Wokistan said:
This isn't the only text, but this is an important one, BTW
http://www.avesta.org/kanga/ka_english_kanga_epub.pdf
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i was asking for specific stuff not the entire scripture
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Sometimes, it's best to read the entire scripture to best understand the context.SSBXeno573 said:
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I mean, Zach can still highlight an important area and the context and send it as screenshots. If the entire scripture is somehow relevant as context, he should probably make an explanation blog or something.
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Although. Can someone ask Cropfist for input? He's an expert on the subject and agreed with Ahriman being nonexistent.
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how many people have to agree with me to get something removed?
a discuss mod already agrees
a discuss mod already agrees
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You should still ask a knowledgable member.
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Pretty sure a knowledgeable member has to agree before this can be changed.SSBXeno573 said:
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Pretty sure a knowledgeable member has to agree before this can be changed.
but what if a knowledgeable member don't agree but everyone else agree? (I don't mean in this thread I mean in general)
but what if a knowledgeable member don't agree but everyone else agree? (I don't mean in this thread I mean in general)
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I asked cropfist for input, let's wait for him to respond.
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You can use the Knowledgeable Members List to find people who are well-versed in mythology, and ask them to comment here.
So far I am leaning towards agreeing with Ultima though.
So far I am leaning towards agreeing with Ultima though.
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