Actually based on this quick calc I made using the scans provided in this thread Pure Titans would indeed be 9-A
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I was mainly disagreeing Pure Titans being 9-A because that would cause Ackermans to scale to 9-A, then Bertolt somewhat can keep up one of with them he'd scale to 9-A, other warriors would also be 9-A, Eren and everyone scales to him also be 9-A. And this would make absolutely no sense whatsoever, in a verse where everyone is terrified of Pure Titans people scaling to themActually based on this quick calc I made using the scans provided in this thread Pure Titans would indeed be 9-A
Shifters scale higher into that value and scale to 8-C with hardeningPure titan Breaks a Wall
Pure titans only get "Higher" with their teeth
Other Ackermans but not Levi. Never has Levi been overpowered by regular human
I never said any Ackerman was overpowered by regular human, a regular human only briefly kept up with one, Mikasa. All Ackermans scale due to the same thing, they all scale to one another. Levi is not stronger than Mikasa, he is just more experienced than her due to being much older. He's not special.
Levi is definitely stronger than her. I agree with the 9-A scaling.
No he's not, not to the point of jumping from 9-B to 9-A. There is no reason for Mikasa to be weaker than other Ackermans. End of that discussion
Levi has more impressive feats because he has way more experience with killing titans than Mikasa. Mikasa literally was just 15 years old until Marley arc. After timeskip (it was only 4 years and still her experience wasn't anywhere near to Levi's) her feats were pretty close to Levi (maybe on par) as she fought with Warhammer Titan which is basically 3rd strongest titan after the Founder and Colossal (with nuke) and killed many ancient shifters during Battle of Heavens and Earth.
Why Levi was at half strength because of the thunder spear explosion.
I didn't say anything about that. I said that post-timeskip Mikasa's feats are pretty close or maybe even on par with Levi's feats. Levi's best feat is probably destroying Beast Titan after killing 30 pure titans in the forest, and Mikasa's best feat is fighting with multiple ancient shifters and killing like 8-10 of them (i don't remember the exact number). Those feats are pretty close i think.
This seems a little fallacious. Levi is the fastest moving character, shown time and time again. So fast to the point people can't see him. Mikasa has never shown to be that fast at all, and other can even keep up with her. But if I say "there's no reason she should be slower than Levi" I have no leg to stand on. Besides, Levi had enought strength to cur through the Jaw Titan's armor, a feat Mikasa struggled with before when it came to Reiner.
Literally who
Bertolt and Annie.
No, they havent. Bertolt ive already explained in absurd detail and Annie never once fought Mikasa in her human form
If anything Bertolt's supposed "Feat" of blocking Mikasa's sword and "Hurting" her should be considered an outlier
Oh yeah I meant Titan Annie. Who got super blitzed by Levi.
What do you mean by struggling? Mikasa did the same thing to Reiner. I don't see the point of this comment as both of them didn't cut their armors but muscles which is no different from cutting other titans. Also iirc Mikasa also cut Female Titan's finger muscles when her fingers were hardened.
Thing is thats not even what happened
In the forest Mikasa also sort of blitzed Female Titan but couldn't kill her because of hardening. Fight scenes between Female Titan and Mikasa where Mikasa was knocked out (during 1 x 24) were anime-only, so they're not canon.
No she didn’t. Annie almost caught Mikasa with a weakened arm and Levi had to save her.
I was talking about the fight before Levi arrived.
Why does that matter? If Mikasa was overwhelmingly faster than Annie, that would be an issue for her.
I mean she wasn't able to touch Mikasa, and Mikasa was cutting her till she felt to the ground during the first fight. Mikasa getting caught by a very weakened Annie doesn't make sense, so probably it matters.
You don't need to be overwhelming faster to dodge an attack. Hell, you don't even need to be faster than the attack itself. A lot of out bullet/laser dodging calcs has the characters being slower than the actual projectile. It all depends on distance.
These are very close range fights, and in anime (i.e. in motion) it was shown that she wasn't just running but also attacking to Mikasa but Mikasa dodged all of these attacks and simulatenously was cutting her.
Yeah he's faster but the difference between them isn't as big as the difference between 9-B and 9-A.
That's because she specifically lured her into attacking her Nape and knew she was going to attack.
You didn't explain a thing, you just denied obvious feat of Bertolt blocking Mikasa's attack and visibly hurting her with a kick. You're still in denial but everyone else can see the feat.
That was when annie was already blinded and annie already expects someone aiming for her nape and limitations if 3DMG gas expulsion would need mikasa to decelerate to avoid and her hooks wasnt attached at that time afaik
Plus Levi literally blocked the attack from Annie.
Levi kicks away female Titan's hand, and breaks his own leg while doing so. Also, at that point Female Titan is severely weakened and exhausted, she can barely move.
She isn't weakened she is restricted in movement because her tendons are cutted off except her other hands.
They even say she's weakened, and Levi still breaks his leg while blocking her, and this was also her second transformation. I didn't say this to discredit the feat, but just added that Female isn't at her peak and Levi still breaks his leg
Seems good, i agree.
I agree with this. I don't necessarily think all Ackerman's should scale exactly to each other though.
Yes but I think that's mostly an experience thing, Levi is a grown man while Mikasa is 15 years old, I'd say timeskip Mikasa is relative to Levi now
