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A simple Duel on the streets of Academy City
Who would win and why?
A simple Duel on the streets of Academy City
Who would win and why?
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Accelerator vs Lelouch Vi Britannia
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Yes and yes
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how is this not a mismatch?
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Accelerator can borrow the Earth's Wnergy and Lelouch has Damocles
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damocles should probably be removed from lelouch's profile and have a separate profile, considering he doesn't actually "pilot" it.
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He still uses it though
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mmm, if Geass works through eyesight then shouldn't it be based on light transmission? I suppose it depends on whether Accelerator can reflect it but seeing as he has reflected magic before (which he doesn't understand very well), then he can maybe reflect it as well? He also explictly reflects even slightly harmful forms of light, which is why he is albino as well. Geass should fall into that classification.
As for the FLEIJA, such an attack would be capable of possibly killing base accelerator (whose weakness is explictly removing air from an environment in a large radius), but wings accelerator probably doesn't mind that very much. He can just vector the entire thing away and possibly doesn't even need air. Since Accelerator can consciously activate white wings as of the current LN, he should be able to survive FLEIJA even if he isn't wings form right off the back.
I'm going to say Accelerator but it hinges on Geass not working.
As for the FLEIJA, such an attack would be capable of possibly killing base accelerator (whose weakness is explictly removing air from an environment in a large radius), but wings accelerator probably doesn't mind that very much. He can just vector the entire thing away and possibly doesn't even need air. Since Accelerator can consciously activate white wings as of the current LN, he should be able to survive FLEIJA even if he isn't wings form right off the back.
I'm going to say Accelerator but it hinges on Geass not working.
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he doesn't "use" it, what good is him, and him alone in Damocles. He can't do anything, he can't operate it
EDIT:also @Alakabamm, Accelerator notes air removal would be a problem, and right after that point he learned to manipulate the atmosphere, making that whole point mute, it was really a silly weakness anyway when he could hold his breath
EDIT:also @Alakabamm, Accelerator notes air removal would be a problem, and right after that point he learned to manipulate the atmosphere, making that whole point mute, it was really a silly weakness anyway when he could hold his breath
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Assuming he doesn't just move to somewhere with air.Alakabamm said:
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so the FLEIJA is 100 kilometres unlimited, Accelerator has at least mach 25 speed, it would take him less than 8 seconds to cross a distance of 100 km. this is assuming he is deadset in the centre of it.
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Not according to what he said following the dust explosion that he created against Touma. Accel's field has a radius of 1 meter around him, so he only has 2/3(pi) meters of air to survive on inside the field. The problem is not that he can't survive the FLEIJA directly, but that the FLEIJA creates an environment which Accel said he couldn't survive in.DontTalk said:
Of course, if this is bloodlusted/knowledgeable Accel, he's just gonna get out of range in like 8 seconds like LordAizen said. But Accel tends to tank attacks rather than dodge them and he certainly isn't going 100 km for no reason.
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way to kill my favorite chracter....obviously accelerator wins, Lelouche wouldn't fire the F.L.E.I.J.A weapon to win a fight, i wonder if would have done it under any circumstence. also the warhead itself is also moving at a vector before exploding, so it won't work anyway, same is true for lelouch's geass power, so no commends will work, which leaves lelouch either retreating or dying...most likely the latter.
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Lol, someone just had to make this thread. I'm kind of happy that someone had actually used a character that I helped create. It's true that FLEIJA has vectors as it expands, but the mechanism in which it destroys matter is a bit unknown. Even son Accelerator had reflected Kakine's vectors which were made of dark matter, so Accel should be able to figure it out once it happens.
I would agree that accelerator could probably win if he was serious, and Lelouch is seriously disavantaged in something like a duel. While it's true Geass has vectors and could probably deflected by accelerator, it's unknown the mechanism in which it can be used to control others. It requires eye contact yes, and there's presumably some purple light that is used in order to induce others into his absolute control, but whether accelerator has the ability to reflect all things he doesn't need to survive.
However because the mechanism of Geass is unknown, it may be considered Normal Light by accelerator just as how Kakine's Dark matter manipulated light could be seen as normal light when accelerator was first hit by it. (Though accelerator had managed to figure out Kakine's vectors later on).Only Geass only has to work once and it's an automatic victory for Lelouch. Still if Accelerator is bloodlusted Lelouche probably wouldn't be able to activate his Geass considering the speed difference.
It's true that FLEIJA causes a massive vaccum and thus it may be possible that accelerator would die of lack of air, however in his angel form, he can easily cross the distance of 100m, and break through the FLEIJA barrier due to his vector manipulation. After he enters the Damocles it would be an easy win for him, assuming either Geass wouldn't work or Lelouch would not have the ability to use Geass.
There's a few problems I can see with this duel though. Firstly Lelouch isn't exactly a physical person, or even a magical one. He controls people with his Geass but that's the only power he has. It's almost like saying Accelerator vs Kira when they are face to face.
Kira may be able to kill accelerator if he was on Mars or something, and he knew his real name (which assumes he has the shinegami eyes, a picture of him etc.) but not up close.
There are a few ways Lelouch can win in the situation, however distance must be place dbetween them, and their exact locations must now be known by each other. Furthermore, Lelouch would have to play his cards right, and lure Accelerator when his battery is off into a place where he could use his Geass on him.
For example if he Geassed Last Order and tricked Accelerator in meeting him face to face with his battery off (assume he's not using wings or is bloodlusted and uses wings), he may be able to defeat or control him.
Either way, being so confrontational isn't Lelouch's style.
There was also one part that one make take into consideration. It's if Lelouch has any outside help. For example if Lelouch manages to sneak behind accelerator while he doesn't know he's there, he could use Rolo's Geass in order to seemingly stop time (it stops time within a certain area, but not actually, basically it paralyzes everyone and makes it look like he's stopped time).
The only question is whether or not Rolo's Geass would work on accelerator's reflection. If he isn't using his reflection the the result is obvious, but Rolo's Geass technically also has vectors, like an expanding field that encompasses an area. Therefore it may not work on Accelerator.
Either way it's probably 9.5/10 accelerator wins, with 0.5 being accelerator starts with battery off, and Lelouch uses geass right away when he's faced to face without waiting for accelerator to turn on his battery or something of that sort.
I would agree that accelerator could probably win if he was serious, and Lelouch is seriously disavantaged in something like a duel. While it's true Geass has vectors and could probably deflected by accelerator, it's unknown the mechanism in which it can be used to control others. It requires eye contact yes, and there's presumably some purple light that is used in order to induce others into his absolute control, but whether accelerator has the ability to reflect all things he doesn't need to survive.
However because the mechanism of Geass is unknown, it may be considered Normal Light by accelerator just as how Kakine's Dark matter manipulated light could be seen as normal light when accelerator was first hit by it. (Though accelerator had managed to figure out Kakine's vectors later on).Only Geass only has to work once and it's an automatic victory for Lelouch. Still if Accelerator is bloodlusted Lelouche probably wouldn't be able to activate his Geass considering the speed difference.
It's true that FLEIJA causes a massive vaccum and thus it may be possible that accelerator would die of lack of air, however in his angel form, he can easily cross the distance of 100m, and break through the FLEIJA barrier due to his vector manipulation. After he enters the Damocles it would be an easy win for him, assuming either Geass wouldn't work or Lelouch would not have the ability to use Geass.
There's a few problems I can see with this duel though. Firstly Lelouch isn't exactly a physical person, or even a magical one. He controls people with his Geass but that's the only power he has. It's almost like saying Accelerator vs Kira when they are face to face.
Kira may be able to kill accelerator if he was on Mars or something, and he knew his real name (which assumes he has the shinegami eyes, a picture of him etc.) but not up close.
There are a few ways Lelouch can win in the situation, however distance must be place dbetween them, and their exact locations must now be known by each other. Furthermore, Lelouch would have to play his cards right, and lure Accelerator when his battery is off into a place where he could use his Geass on him.
For example if he Geassed Last Order and tricked Accelerator in meeting him face to face with his battery off (assume he's not using wings or is bloodlusted and uses wings), he may be able to defeat or control him.
Either way, being so confrontational isn't Lelouch's style.
There was also one part that one make take into consideration. It's if Lelouch has any outside help. For example if Lelouch manages to sneak behind accelerator while he doesn't know he's there, he could use Rolo's Geass in order to seemingly stop time (it stops time within a certain area, but not actually, basically it paralyzes everyone and makes it look like he's stopped time).
The only question is whether or not Rolo's Geass would work on accelerator's reflection. If he isn't using his reflection the the result is obvious, but Rolo's Geass technically also has vectors, like an expanding field that encompasses an area. Therefore it may not work on Accelerator.
Either way it's probably 9.5/10 accelerator wins, with 0.5 being accelerator starts with battery off, and Lelouch uses geass right away when he's faced to face without waiting for accelerator to turn on his battery or something of that sort.
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