REGARDLESS OF ITS DURABILITY
I READ IT. The Kienzan has ALWAYS cut its opponent regardless of their strength. The only two exceptions are from Toei, but even then the strength difference was insanely huge. Saying it SHOULD cut anything to fall under DN seems like NLF as well.
Yeah no , if it was just piercing damage then the special beam canon (which has higher AP) would've worked on nappa and also piccolo when cell used it on him , hell if it was just Higher AP than vegeta would've noticed krillin's power level going up like With every other technique but he didn't.
Give An example aside from jiren , jiren didn't even tank it he hit the sides
Because you said it's just Higher ap via piercing damage but those were examples of attacks with higher AP yet failed to damage it's target the way the kienzan did
You have severe lack of proof
What Greenshifter said.
Give me an example of the Kienzan failing to cut its opponent in the manga.
Your AP can't go up without your PL also going up accordingly, idk you got that idea from
I’m disputing the anime. Not the manga.
Go change durability negating then. That’s the page.
Surface Area + Piercing Damage allows you to do significantly more damage without being stronger
That's not how it works in DB , it's not like he was swinging a special sword , the kienzan is KI therefore it has a PL
Basic physics doesn’t apply to dragon ball? lmao what?
I kinda remember the thread where he lost it , I honestly think he should have it back , they removed it not because it didn't work on sm1 stronger but because some randos said you can't neg durability via cutting space-time and some staff agreed , they ended up removing it pretty much without waiting for any opposition.
Seriously......lmao.....space-time cutting isn't dura neg now.....lmao
You’re kinda missing the point. While the tiering system is based on energy, it’d be more accurately based on pressure. For instance the power level of a bullet and a human’ punch could be comparable since they have an equal force or kinetic energy. Yet a bullet will go right through you while a punch wouldn’t, because the area it affects is smaller and thus the pressure it creates is higher. So your AP doesn’t go up, but since you have more pressure you can hurt people with a higher AP than yourself and will thus be rated at their level with your attack.
Makankosappo deals piercing damage --> PL increases
Wow, it’s almost like it’s a smaller, more condensed attack with less surface area? Doesn’t need the extra strength?
Tell that to them lmao , by the time i wanted to say anything the thread was closed and the changes were already made
Doesn’t it increase because the energy also becomes higher? That’s like double the benefit.
What has smaller surface area the death beam or the kienzan
Since when are we talking about the death beam? Weren’t you just talking about Special Beam Cannon? lmao
They both deal piercing damage , if that's how it works then vegeta would've noticed a rise in krillin's PL as he was charging it just like the makankosappo , but no it just negs durability, it's a property of the technique , plain and simple
Same , i brought all the techniques that deal piercing damage in the beginning , just shows how ur paying attention to what I say
I haven’t been here for a good bit and am occupied by another thread. Does Death beam have any anti-feats?
??? Did u just say it has less surface area than the death beam ? Or are u reffering to the makankosappo ?
Special Beam Cannon. Does the Death Beam have any shown anti-feats for not piercing through stuff?
I was thinking of making a crt for both him and gogeta . But there are already alot of those so im just gonna wait.
Goku took it to the face yeah
Well the ki swords aren't are kinda weak lol
