About Spirit circle and Lucifer and the biscuit hammer

[Pedonar]

in this thread i asked a question “ Since Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer are connected to the spirit circle, doesn't that mean when Animus destroys the Earth, it will disturb the balance of Heaven's River? And isn't that why space-time is destroyed? If yes, doesn't it mean he should get Tier 1 or at least Tier 2 environmental destruction, depending on how you treat the space-time or Heaven’s River” (OP asked to create a new thread for this )

 

[Pedonar]

Resistance to madness, because when Fuuta was viewing other realities, I don't remember who exactly but someone warned him that viewing too many realities would cause him to forget his true self. Possibly it's not type 3 nor madness, but for now, I will keep it

 

[Pedonar]

Immortality Type 5 is due to living souls not being classified as alive or dead. 'Enhanced sense' is now 'Extrasensory Perception,' 'telekinesis' is changed to 'weapon control.' An 'alternate future display' occurred when Fortuna saw himself losing to Koko, though it didn't happen. 'Fate' is added, while 'time,' 'probability,' and 'higher dimensional manipulation' are removed

 

[Pedonar]

I believe he should get Concept Type 1

 

[Pedonar]

Bump

 

[Pedonar]

Bump

 

[Ryuga21]

Kinda agree with the changes on Spirit Circle but not sure about Animus tier 1 stuff. Seems kinda assumption and the space-time destruction was very limited.

 

[Pedonar]

Kinda agree with the changes on Spirit Circle but not sure about Animus tier 1 stuff. Seems kinda assumption and the space-time destruction was very limited.

Finally, someone replied. Thank you.

Regarding Tier 1 Animus, even if it's limited, I believe it should be mentioned. The environmental destruction he causes is similar to Yhwach thing

both are related to the world balance

 

[PrinceofPein]

The higher dimension is spiritual. Correct?

 

[Pedonar]

The higher dimension is spiritual. Correct?

Yes

 

[PrinceofPein]

Yes

That would not be HDE

 

[Pedonar]

That would not be HDE

Are you talking about his last key?

if yes then idk , all I know is that he was going to merge with the universe

edit: forgot that i give him HDE for his first key

 

[Pedonar]

That would not be HDE

Why not ?

 

[Ryuga21]

Honestly, if the concepts of cosmology in Spirit Circle were taken seriously in other Mizukami works, there would be a drastic change in every mizukami-verse profile. Some things must be taken with care or we could argue that Mountain God should be 1-C for eating souls which countain a universe-sized complex dimension above Space-Time continuum. Some things that are merely hax should not interfere with AP.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Why not ?

Because spiritual dimensions usually refer to some sort of heaven or hell and not actually higher spatial dimensions

 

[Pedonar]

Honestly, if the concepts of cosmology in Spirit Circle were taken seriously in other Mizukami works, there would be a drastic change in every mizukami-verse profile. Some things must be taken with care or we could argue that Mountain God should be 1-C for eating souls which countain a universe-sized complex dimension above Space-Time continuum. Some things that are merely hax should not interfere with AP.

I still haven't read Sengoku Youko, but the Animus Tier 1 thing is a part of the world setting, not a hax or AP thing, and it can be ignored if no one wants it in the profile

 

[Pedonar]

Because spiritual dimensions usually refer to some sort of heaven or hell and not actually higher spatial dimensions

Okay, only the first key should be removed, right? What else?

 

[Ryuga21]

Because spiritual dimensions usually refer to some sort of heaven or hell and not actually higher spatial dimensions

Can you prove that this is the meaning in which spirit circle refers to spiritual dimensions?

 

[Ryuga21]

I still haven't read Sengoku Youko, but the Animus Tier 1 thing is a part of the world setting, not a hax or AP thing, and it can be ignored if no one wants it in the profile

I didn't say I completely disagree with this, maybe I can agree with a "possibly" but that still wouldn't scale the adult version of Animus since he was far more powerful as a child.

 

[Ryuga21]

I still haven't read Sengoku

Btw, you really should, it's Mizukami's masterpiece :v

 

[PrinceofPein]

Okay, only the first key should be removed, right? What else?

I will give a proper look at the read later on

Can you prove that this is the meaning in which spirit circle refers to spiritual dimensions?

It does not work that way, you are the one who has to prove that these spiritual dimensions are higher spatial dimensions

 

[Ryuga21]

You are the one making any statement here. If you assert something, you can usually prove it, can't you?

 

[Ryuga21]

In Mizukamiverse spiritual dimensions are not related to "heaven or hell". Each soul possesses within itself a universal dimension that exists beyond the heaven's river (which is the space-time continuum). This is also explored in Sengoku Youko, when a soul suffers interference or interception the fight takes place within this vast dimension.

 

[PrinceofPein]

You are the one making any statement here. If you assert something, you can usually prove it, can't you?

I am telling you to read our guide.
Spiritual dimensions are not spatial higher dimensions automatically.
And now I am not the ones making a statement, I just told you our standards, you are the one claiming that these spiritual dimensions are higher spatial dimensions so please send proof of that.

 

[Pedonar]

Bump

 

[Pedonar]

Bump

 

[Pedonar]

Bump

 

[PrinceofPein]

bro it is HDE
read this
Each soul has the same size as the universe. with all of them having one additional axis/higher dimension, Future lives have higher space-time coordinates than the other reincarnations, Souls are also unbounded by the linear of time beyond the river of heaven, encompassing the entire space-time continuum.

Your scans does not say what your hyper link text says and still I am not seeing the HDE.
Also before you continue please read on what coordinates are in relation to space-time. "It space-time coordinates are higher than ours since it's in the future" = it is of higher dimensionality.

 

[Robo432343]

Bump

bro can i bump this
please dont give up on this crt

 

[Pedonar]

bro can i bump this
please dont give up on this crt

Ok i will try

 

[Robo432343]

yes i agree

maybe you should change the title of this crt

 

[Pedonar]

yes i agree

maybe you should change the title of this crt

I need some help with the blog if you don’t mind. Also, is there a way to DM you instead of talking here in the CRT?