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Magic weapon. They don't deal damage from mass, rather the energy they are made from.
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About speed feats with weapons
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If people do this shit below, they scale to the sword swings
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Only if the magic weapon is stated to be fashioned out of pure energy. Again, you're being a bit too specific here.
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The closest thing you can get that kind of physics being used in fiction is a damn Lightsaber.
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Yes, but that isn't always the case.
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Being specific? Yes, but to reach the most accurate outcome, you need to consider every possible example.
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Then it's case by case and this can be closed, if you have an issue with a specific sword swing calc, then bring it up with that
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Or this:
Or this:
Have fun convincing people that this wouldn't scale to anyone when dudes like Dante can casually perceive their weapons in slow-mo, control their weapon's trajectory mid-flight, swap weapons outright mid-attack and then perform sick crazy dance moves right after just to piss on their enemies with style.
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Examples that never happen. Lightsabers again.
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No, Occam's Razor dictates you go with the simplest and most logical outcome. Being uber-specific like this is gonna get you nowhere.
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Lightsabers exist, as well as many other kinds of energy-blades, so there are possible examples.
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Okay and? You're still being hyper-specific about it.
Plus what DaReaperMan said. Lightsabers are the last thing you'd expect to follow the laws of physics.
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And said things don't follow those physics in-verse.
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That's not what Occam's Razor is. What it describes is that the outcome with the least amount of assumptions is most likely to be true.
Occam's Razor is more of a truth/false scenario, rather than what this is about.
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Also this is the exact kind of situation I was talking about, where the blade is outright straightly aligned with the limb. Except in my case I use the arm, whereas Erza here uses her leg.
Majority of fiction portrays stuff like this.
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No, this is NOT what this is about. This has nothing to do with banning or nuking these types of feats.
Instead, it is just removing a specific variable in these calculations, not getting rid of them altogether, the calc will still exist.
Moreover, there are times where it is okay to scale characters to the weapon speed; such as if they are explicitly shown to move faster than the weapon itself, such as in slow motion a character moving faster away than the weapon is approaching them.
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Even though the specific variable should be perfectly okay to use in the situations I and DemonGod just mentioned.
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Yes, but should not always apply. Especially in slower verses or verses with realism.
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That depends on whether the verses actually show them that way. Simply stating "slower verses" or "verses with realism" doesn't give us a crystal clear description.
Like DemonGod said, case-by-case basis. If you have a problem with a sword moving calc, bring it up in its own thread. As it stands on its own right now however, I can't bring myself to accept the current OP.
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Then bring them up, and we'll see if these "so-called" problems are justified.
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Also it'll heavily depend on the position of the blade and whether the blade was moved separately from the arm movement. Because there are instances where the character moves the blade first independently and then moves their limbs later.
And sometimes there's situations where they move the blade simultaneously with their limbs (Like rotating a sword and their upper arm 90 degrees simultaneously at the same time to assume a blocking stance, in that case we can't use the sword's length for movement and we have to stick with limb movement instead). In moments like these, you need to take a lot of factors like these into account.
And sometimes there's situations where they move the blade simultaneously with their limbs (Like rotating a sword and their upper arm 90 degrees simultaneously at the same time to assume a blocking stance, in that case we can't use the sword's length for movement and we have to stick with limb movement instead). In moments like these, you need to take a lot of factors like these into account.
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