>Nobody is currently accepted at high-5A except Ascalon when misused and maybe Vilgax and Diagon. My downgrade thread got accepted for that, I'm just waiting till my OS revision is accepted, to do the Way Big and by extension Atomix downgrade to 7A.
Uh, according to your own downgrade thread, Atomix and Atomic-X are only going to be downgraded to 5-A along with Way Big. So this definitely doesnt change my point here.
>And in fact Big Chuck is the perfect example of the opposite of what you're claiming since a few of Eon's fodder robots were able to topple him.
And once again, nice job on focusing on a ridiculously low-end feat, which would downgrade like 99% of the wikia if taken even remotely seriously.
Should we downgrade Goku from Low 2-C for needing a suit to go into the center of the earth then? Or Naruto from 5-B for getting stabbed by a sword?
>I'll upgrade Maltruant just like base Ben to 7A as well, Maltruant should be obvious cause Rook's Proto tool clashed with Khyber's sword who is 7A, yet did no damage to Maltruant in the final episode.
Not only is this a case of durability, but this is also assuming its not an outlier when Chronosapiens are universally known to be a physically weak species compared to any other alien race, which makes it even more questionable of Maltruant being able to do that.
And even if the upgrade goes through, Atomix and Atomic-X are still going to be 5-A. So it still wouldnt change my point from earlier.
>Umm no it isnt, I would like the source for this.
Fusion is when you combine 2 things, or 2 beings, into one product. Combining things will obviously make the product stronger and better than the sum parts in more cases than not.
A source is not needed for every little thing as it's pretending that common sense doesn't exist.
>Maltruent has defeated adult Gwen, adult Ben and his wife, as well as other feats that puts him WAY above 9-B. The profile is inaccurate.
Get him upgraded then. Until then, what the profile says dictates. Thats how it works here.
>Since we arent applying death of the author and instead uses WOG, WOG says Ben never uses Alien X because it's too powerful and risk destroying the universe, but you want us to believe that he made an alien even stronger than Alien X despite of that?
TGoP already answered this, but to add onto it, this WoG is obviously bullshit since the show itself has shown multiple times that Ben is willing to use Alien X when the moment calls for it.
>And you clearly dont know what a "false equivalence" is, matter of fact is, the omnitrix fused Ben's aliens, they turned out weaker, we have actual evidence that fusions dont always make aliens stronger.
And like i've explained for about 7 times already, this isn't evidence. The Omnitrix wasn't designed to fuse aliens together. It wasn't built for that purpose. It could only do it when there were glitches in its functions, therefore making crappy fusions of the aliens it held. It's obvious on why they would turn out to be weak, the omnitrix cannot create proper fusions.
Answer me this: Someone has a machine thats designed to make ice cream cones. Yet, someone else comes along and tries using that machine to make something entirely different, lik donuts. Now tell me, are the donuts that are made from an ice cream machine doing to be actual donuts?
You can't compare this to literally every other fusion in the entire franchise. Especially to a device that IS created for doing fusions without relying on a glitch in its fuctioning to make it happen. That is a disgusting generalization.
>You dont have any proof that fusions makes aliens stronger, yet you are making some bullshit argument implying we have some automatic standard that says fusions always turn out stronger than its sum
Im not doing the same thing because I don't need evidence for this. Common sense dictates that combining 2 things together will make it beyond the sum parts.
For it to not suddenly do is what requires evidence. For a combination to not suddenly make it greater than the individual aspects is what needs evidence. And Ben 10 has shown absolutely none of that.
>Why couldnt it simply be an inconsistency that he got killed by the timbeobmb?? Since you are willing to ignore Atomic X being defeated by Maltruent beccause you consider it an inconsistency, why cant both be???
Because this is also a false equivalency.
Atomic-X being legitimately defeated by Maltruent is bullshit since Atomix without any fusion whatsoever is superior to Aliens who are superior to anything Maltruent can dish out. Like Way Big. Atomic X has a basis of being a victim of PIS and inconsistency.
Atomic-X has no basis of being even comparable to the time bomb to fall back onto in the first place. It being defeated by it is the only relation it has with the CTB in general.
